older FAs(40 and older), what was life like?

[Guest wholelottarosie]

weirdly phrased, but what i mean is how was it like to like big women when the beauty standard was very thin and most pornstars/models were thin? how'd you find out? where you mocked for it? how'd you find women to have sex with?

[extra_m13]

i am 35, almost 36 so will qualify myself for this. everything was probably smaller, yasmine bleeth and melissa joan hart and beyonce were the curviest that was around that i remember. fortunately sexydreamer and the other one, michaela came along. germany to the rescue as well as brooke and the freshman15 experiment, those were good. you find out probably the same way as you do now, you see celullite, rolls bellies and you get turn on and learn to recognize it and enjoy it. mocked for it... probably a bit but i guess that hasnt changed a lot, you learn to be clear about your preferences and people, specially loved ones usually understand and accept that you are after the chubby ladies. 

the sex part is where most of the change has come. because one you can like the fat ones on some apps, and in the past you had to really look for them in bars and parties so it definitely was a bit more complicated. but then again, ladies are always complicated.

[Guest wholelottarosie]

3 hours ago, extra_m13 said:

i am 35, almost 36 so will qualify myself for this. everything was probably smaller, yasmine bleeth and melissa joan hart and beyonce were the curviest that was around that i remember. fortunately sexydreamer and the other one, michaela came along. germany to the rescue as well as brooke and the freshman15 experiment, those were good. you find out probably the same way as you do now, you see celullite, rolls bellies and you get turn on and learn to recognize it and enjoy it. mocked for it... probably a bit but i guess that hasnt changed a lot, you learn to be clear about your preferences and people, specially loved ones usually understand and accept that you are after the chubby ladies. 

the sex part is where most of the change has come. because one you can like the fat ones on some apps, and in the past you had to really look for them in bars and parties so it definitely was a bit more complicated. but then again, ladies are always complicated.

were buf and plumpers by the counter on the days of the nudie magazine instead of our golden age of internet porn? or was it too controvesial since the beauty standard back then was WAY worse than today? could you find video productions with bbws?

[Bleeker]

7 hours ago, extra_m13 said:

as well as brooke and the freshman15 experiment

I'm 30, and these are two major nostalgia boners for me. I remember thinking Brooke was SO FAT, and how exciting that was. Looking at her stuff now, she's what I would consider "thick" when she was at her heaviest. Funny how that works. 

[Guest LikeEmThicc2]

It's wild to me that young Beyonce, like 03-05 was considered "Thick". Like compared to today's version of thick people would probably say she was a little skinny.

[extra_m13]

there were definitely some heavy hitters, dimensionsmagazine had probably the best forums for that and there were some really big ladies but it was difficult to get today;s interaction and follow up. these days , it is fairly common to see girls over 300pounds celebrating 'curves' and having a 'normal body' and that is very hot

[Guest Weight gain schadenfreude]

When I was a child a fat pop star was a contradiction in terms. Even the slightest gain would result in character assasination. Now all pop stars eventually get fat. No one even talks about opo stars being unrealistic role models anymore. If anything the danger now lies in the opposite direction.

[CarlGnarl]

Night and day, my man.

As in "before and after there was such a thing as GPS" or even computers wide-spread. 

If you wanted to see what a fat girl looked like without her clothes, you had to date one and take them off and see for yourself. NO fat girls ever wore anything but baggy sweatshirts and such. Fat fashion simply didn't exist.

You NEVER saw a fat celeb except for, say, Liz Taylor or Shelly Winters who had been sex symbols and who were mocked publicly for their weight gain.

I had to drive 40 miles to get my copy of BUF.

I still remember the first time I saw a 5'4, 350-pound woman without her clothes in a magazine. I almost couldn't speak, she was so beautiful. 

"Thossssse were the dayssssss." 

[Little Miss Cake]

On 7/8/2021 at 7:21 PM, Bleeker said:

I'm 30, and these are two major nostalgia boners for me. I remember thinking Brooke was SO FAT, and how exciting that was. Looking at her stuff now, she's what I would consider "thick" when she was at her heaviest. Funny how that works. 

I remember Brooke! I just went back to check out her old photos and wow, you're so right!

Brooke is pretty much your run-of-the-mill mid fat (if even) who would fit right in with all the curvy girl Instragramers and TikTokers today. Like... damn girl, can you really even call yourself a gainer when you haven't developed stretch marks on your belly!? 😂

I guess the shock and novelty of Brooke was more that she was intentional about gaining weight, which was extremely rare and almost unheard of.

[Voluptuouslover]

Great thread to reminisce - Everyone has chimed in on many models names and memories from the era before the internet.

I to remember print magazines like Buf and later plumbers where they actually touched on weight gain and had many chunkier and fatter models (although many were not that really good looking a lot of times).  There was also Voluptuous XL sometime after which had some pretty hot chunkier models done up but were not really Fat in our eyes and did t really touch on the fat or weight gain side of things other than many of these models had packed on some lbs. to make it into this mag publication and its name from one of their original mags Voluptuous a division of Score Magazine.

Touching back even further I remember at the start looking through Sears Catalogues and looking through the bra and pantry section as a young boy,  nothing really even the slightest of Fat but some would have descent plump titties at best and a very slight belly bulge at best.  Moving on to Victoria secret Magazine that came through the mail and seeing some done up models in lingerie that were skinny with some bigger titties and dreaming of them gaining weight.

Real life situations during middle school were girls that would develop and gain weight over summer coming to school the next year as a woman and seeing how they could barely squeeze into their jeans and tops with their breasts bulging and big muffin tops and bellies showing through their jeans.  Then there were some of the hotter neighborhood Moms that packed on the lbs. and kept going.

By High School,   I was pretty open to liking chubbier/chunkier girls based on my girlfriends at the time. Although what was Fat in my eyes then surely took on a much higher weight as I got older.  In College I had some fun with plenty extra chunky girls and my fattest GF to date turned out to gain a bunch of weight while we were together and I was in Love. I already engaged in weight gain talk with my serious GF in High School and she fattened up while we were together on purpose and seemed to enjoy it as much as I did. But my College serious GF it was a whole other level.  
 

Even with all this action into my desire I never really had any woman to far over 215 lbs. and I started looking at the fore mentioned magazines in my top paragraph  and realized I desired more and more weight and Fat on women.

I think that the internet has also made me aware of more and more Beautiful SSBBW and has skewed my vision of how much Fat I desire on women. I think the time we are in has made so many of us into big BBW’s & SSBBW’s because they are so readily available by viewing gorgeous pictures showcasing all their Fat in such an alluring way done up….almost like Victoria Secret models I envisioned with several hundred extra lbs!

 

[Aurel]

Sorry. Long post here.

It was a bit tough. Of course, for me the challenge was compounded by my being somewhat shy and private by nature, which meant that I wasn’t going to talk about it with friends or family. Instead I tried to understand and come to grips with all of these feelings and desires privately.

Once I’d awoken sexually, the next thing was the gradual but sharp realization that the gals I liked were not the same as my friends’ preferences. I mean, I found Playboy fascinating just like they did, but I quickly realized that I was drawn to plumper types. Worried that I was “weird” and afraid of being ridiculed, I kept completely quiet about it.

Two behaviors followed. One was trying to secretly collect whatever meagre scraps of BBW imagery or info I could find. Maybe the top row on the magazine shelf at 7/11 had plus-sized content, but I was much too mortified to sift through those materials in public. Voluptuouslover’s comment about the Sears catalog is on point; I enjoyed the lingerie section as a whole but especially fixated on the one larger-sized model that appeared in any given edition.

A big score was when I found the autobiography of Jean Nidetch, founder of Weight Watchers, in the public library, LOL. There was an ancient black and white photo of her in a bathing suit as a young lady which seemed like mana from heaven to me! It’s posted here…although looking at it now, she seems really quite slim, she was much chunkier than the women I saw represented in media and movies. I loved that. I also loved the book’s descriptions of her supposedly terrible eating habits “before” Weight Watchers. It was a description of slow gaining, running after ice cream trucks, coffee cake in late evenings, etc.. Boy did that send me.

The other behavior was a kind of furtive checking-out of plump gals around me (at school, in the mall, whatever). I did not have the emotional maturity to seek relationships with them, so it was basically repressed, hopefully-discreet ogling. I carried a sort of mental catalog of chubby girls I knew or had seen in my mind. I was 18 when I met my first GF during a summer job. She was definitely on the plus side. When I told her I liked it, she declared - and not in a friendly way - that I was “weird” and, humiliated, I  immediately backtracked (saying I liked it because “it was her,” that sort of BS). She actually lost weight over the summer and our fling ended as summer did.

I had other relationships (BBW and not) and eventually married a BBW who was a foodie and a gainer. But it wasn’t until well into my 20s that I really started to understand the parameters of my preference: that I found weight gain hot; where my upper limit was; how overeating and “fat behaviors” were sexy; etc. Looking back, I had a lot of red tape in my brain about this - telling myself that I liked them big but not “too” big, so as not to be “too” weird, etc.. I’d have been pushing 30 when the internet really went mainstream, and even at that late age, I still found it something of a revelation.

Self-understanding develops best when we’re part of a community that can name what we are and help us to understand it. As a shy FA growing up pre-internet, I didn’t have that. No real harm done, but it did contribute to some confusion and loneliness.

[Guest Weight gain schadenfreude]

On 7/9/2021 at 2:56 AM, Guest LikeEmThicc2 said:

It's wild to me that young Beyonce, like 03-05 was considered "Thick". Like compared to today's version of thick people would probably say she was a little skinny.

I remember watching Beyonce on TV in the early 00's when she was still with Destiny's Child. It was a live concert and I remember her belly was covered by a thin layer of fat and it was glistening with sweat. To me that was f-ing hot and at the same time it was shocking that a Sexy Pop Star could be so "out of shape" in the open. The "wrongness" made it even hotter. Of course now she would seem really thin, but at that time it was a shock. There was already a lot of fat people out there but in the celebrity world "fat" was still a big taboo.

[FAMiller56]

1. Not much different to today. True there is some size acceptance, less body shaming but the ‘standard’ is still thin. Before the internet I thought preferring fat women was something only I and a very few other men did. Sure there were occasional BBWs in magazines but no one of the magnificent size of some of today’s SSBBW models.

2. I’ve been aware of my preference for fat women since I became sexually aware, puberty I guess. I found out I liked big women the obvious way.

3. I was never mocked for it. Choose your friends wisely. Had the occasional jokey aside (‘she big enough for you’ etc). Occasional glances/stares but more at the girl I was with than me, that’s when I needed to be supportive/there for her.
 

4. With difficulty. In the 80s and particularly the UK there were less women of a size I prefer but that made the search that much more interesting. Finding a rare girl over 280 pounds was like finding gold.

[Guest high]

The 80s were a big girl desert! 

Nothing.

Except Wendie Jo Sperber https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/private-benjamin-a-cbs-television-sitcom-based-on-the-movie-of-the-picture-id1189038707?s=612x612

The show The Facts of Life had some ugly big girl, but the real action was in later episodes when the black girl started porking up. 

I have to give props to rap culture, which got big in the 90s and started the whole baggy pants thing (room to grow,) and calling girls "phat". That started it all.

[Voluptuouslover]

On 9/29/2021 at 3:08 PM, high said:

The 80s were a big girl desert! 

Nothing.

Except Wendie Jo Sperber https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/private-benjamin-a-cbs-television-sitcom-based-on-the-movie-of-the-picture-id1189038707?s=612x612

The show The Facts of Life had some ugly big girl, but the real action was in later episodes when the black girl started porking up. 

I have to give props to rap culture, which got big in the 90s and started the whole baggy pants thing (room to grow,) and calling girls "phat". That started it all.

What about Blair getting nice an plump and very hot on facts of life?

[riptoryx]

1 hour ago, Voluptuouslover said:

What about Blair getting nice an plump and very hot on facts of life?

Cycling this back around for relevance.

 

[Guest Weight gain schadenfreude]

While we're living in fat paradise when it comes to both the real world and (to a letter degree) media (that is, your average woman in media is definitely bigger than in the 80's) it's a case of losing something to win something. With the growing prestige of "curvy" and "thicc" part of the forbidden factor is gone. Back in the 80's and 90's the slightest weight gain would be shamelessly monitored and even openly mocked. While that's not healthy, it did make weight gains taboo and therefore more exciting.

Another thing that has been lost somehow is the skinny-fat look. Seen from today, where so many women weight-train and the fit athletic look is so popular, many sexy girls from the 80's and 90's looked positively skinny fat: fat pancake butts, flat chests, no curves, zero definition. 

[CarlGnarl]

On 9/13/2021 at 9:49 AM, FAMiller56 said:

1. Not much different to today.  

ExCUSE me? (no offense) But that's like saying "The telephone isn't much different today than it was in the 80s." 

[stuckage_fan]

On 12/6/2021 at 11:36 AM, Guest Weight gain schadenfreude said:

Back in the 80's and 90's the slightest weight gain would be shamelessly monitored and even openly mocked.

So true. In the media, fat people were treated with less respect back then. While I do not condone this, I must admit that I found it hot at times. Here are some examples.

In German and Austrian discos, it was a popular attraction to hire some fat girls and have them strip, which was called "miss fat girl contest" or similar. Before the internet, many people had never seen a fat woman in her underwear. I had a VHS tape of such an event. The camera man did a good job delivering full screens of fat asses in thongs and the like.

There was a popular tv series called "Kaisermühlen Blues", about fictional characters from Vienna's lower class. There were two chubby actresses involved. In one scene, several people were doing some physical exercise together. A woman played by Marianne Mendt said that one of the exercises was hard for her. Another woman smirked and said, "That's because your belly is in the way." Another scene: Tini Kainrath's character entered a fitness studio. The owner greeted her with a smile and said, "I see right away why you are here. You want to get rid of that gut." She replied that she was just there to gain some strength. Later, the owner told a colleague that "the fatso moves quite nicely." He was indeed using such derogatory words. In German: "Die Wampe weg? ... Die Blade bewegt sich ganz gut."

When zapping tv channels late at night, I found a shopping channel that featured plus size models in their underwear. That was very unusual back then. There was a slim female presenter involved, and it was right after Christmas. The presenter said, "does your weight stay the same over Christmas or did you get even bigger?", and handed the mike to the plus size model. I do not remember her reaction, but I don't think this is likely to happen on tv nowadays.

I recall a newspaper article where a fat singer called Stefanie Werger was interviewed by a female journalist. The journalist wrote the following: "The last question is unavoidable. Has there been a time where you met a man of your dreams, but you were too fat for him?"

Finally, I want to mention Vera Russwurm. She is a (slim) Austrian tv personality; I do not really like her, but I do like that she obviously has a fat-shaming kink. A long time ago, she presented a talk show, and once it was about obesity, with many fat people in the audience. She said, "We all know that fat people are often insulted. What was the most stupid thing someone has said to you?", and handed over the mike. Somewhat reluctantly, the very fat woman she was talking to said something about "fat pig" and "have a look at the fatso". In another show, Russwurm was interviewing a female wrestler (serious sports, not staged wrestling). The guest was muscular, but also a bit chubby. They discussed that the rules of that sport involved an upper weight limit. Russwurm said, "So it's not fatso crushing against fatso." (German: "Damit nicht Fettwanst gegen Fettwanst kracht.") She pronounced the word "Fettwanst" slowly and with a huge grin. Another story: Russwurm was on tv, talking about a fat singer called "Jazz Gitti". She obviously had a very good time going into details about Jazz Gitti's size, like this: "She was not able to buy clothes in regular stores. She had to buy tents. I recall seeing her sitting somewhere, with her 165 kilos, in such a tent."

Jazz Gitti is worth mentioning, actually. She was the only Austrian female celebrity at that time who was really fat. I have read that she sometimes took off her clothes at concerts, but have not seen much of this. I only recall one concert she gave that appeared on tv; in the end, she indeed took of her skirt for a few seconds, turned around and showed the audience her huge butt and thighs in black tights. It's one of my earliest FA memories.