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On 11/27/2023 at 4:20 PM, RawDawg4Pawgs said:
have any of you tried sexy.ai they jusyt upgraded and have like 10 new models to generate from.. no membership even needed
It seems like the free models use older versions of Stable Diffusion, so faces and bodies are good, but hands and limbs tend to get mangled.
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So given everything you’ve said about Dall-E’s lewdness censor and skin real estate, I am very curious what prompt you used to get this one:
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I am curious how you are getting around the prompt censoring. I have found Dall-E 3 to be exceedingly fat phobic. A prompt specifying a woman with a slender build generates with no trouble, but the exact same prompt but using any keyword to suggest the subject is anything but skinny is either ignored and a skinny woman is generated anyway, or the resulting image triggers the censor with a warning about the content policy.
So far I have only been able to “trick” Dall-E 3 into generating fat people by implying in the prompt that the subject is not human, e.g. in a fantasy setting she is a fairy, or in a sci fi setting she is an alien who happens to have very human like features. In other words, according to Dall-E 3, humans are skinny and fat people are not human, which is pretty sick when you think about it.
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3 hours ago, FitGuy123 said:
There's one model right now consuming 10k calories a day and people are encouraging her. She can barely move. She can barely move because her organs are stressing to cope. Very dangerous, the posts should be deleted.
If they are eating that much of their own free will because they enjoy it, what business is it of yours? If you don't like it, just move along. Generally, models who present themselves as feedees on curvage do so because they are in to it, even if they are of a size larger than your personal preference.
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2 minutes ago, Doe_Nylie said:
I was under the impression BMI made it's calculations based on what should be the pinnacle of "fitness" or "health" for someone within a given height and age range.
The calculation of BMI itself is just a number based on your height and weight. It is the categorization of different BMI ranges by doctors based on an assumed correlation to health that is problematic. For example, I have a BMI of about 52. This is just a number, just like my weight of around 350 is just a number. But the value of BMI is that somebody shorter than me or taller than me who also had a BMI of 52 would have a similar level of fatness (with the caveat of them not being a body builder with significantly higher than average musculature). That doctors would place my BMI of 52 into the "morbidly obese" bucket is beside the point.
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@Wishuwerebigger By harder, I mean in store. I shop on kingSize as well. The in store experience may be inconsistent for women, but is nonexistent for men. In this post-covid world where we do much of our general shopping online anyway, it has become less of a problem than it seemed several years ago.
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This same topic always seems to pop up every couple of years. In the past I have offered these categorizations.
By BMI: The whole point of BMI is to normalize weight over different heights. Two people with the same approximate build but different heights will have the same BMI. BMI doesn't account for muscle vs fat, and fat itself isn't the best indicator of health, which is why BMI has a bad reputation due to doctors using it as a proxy for health. But most people are not athletes or body builders, so the difference in muscle mass and its effect on BMI is negligible for average people. So BMI is a pretty good way to quantify fatness. As far as categories, I like the breakdown of 30+ is BBW/BHM, 60+ is SSBBW/SSBHM, 90+ is USSBBW/USSBHM.
By clothing ranges as suggested by Doe_Nylie above: This is a lot more subjective, but reflects the reality of life as a (SS)BBW. If you can find clothes in generic clothing stores but have to go to the plus size section: BBW. If you have to buy your clothes online because even Torrid and Lane Bryant don't actually have your size in store: SSBBW. If it's hard to find stuff that fits even in online shops, USSBBW. This breakdown doesn't work as well for men, though, because as much as clothes shopping sucks for fat women, it sucks even more for fat men. Most department stores that have a plus size section for women have only a couple of shelves of Big and Tall clothes for men if they even have B&T section. I had to switch to online shopping for clothes many pounds ago, and I wouldn't consider myself quite SSBHM yet. (5'9", 350 lbs)
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I have always been into mutual gaining, but in my experience that is relatively rare as most FAs seem to prefer to remain thin/fit for one reason or another.
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Sure, I oversimplified a little bit. Yes, protein technically contains calories, and the body is capable of transforming protein into the energy metabolic pathways via catabolism and deamination. But that is still less efficient than metabolism of carbs and fats. The point still stands that protein powders are intended for body builders who need the extra protein for gaining muscle mass (whether most people who buy such powders use them correctly is besides the point), and if your goal is gaining fat there are much more efficient ways than protein powder, both nutritionally and financially. I still think that a lot of feeders get confused when they see protein powders marketed for 'weight gain', and assume that the protein makes them more effective for fat gain than a plain milkshake.
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I think the community as a whole is a bit confused by the existence of weight gain powders.
There are two types of weight gain. Muscle gain, and fat gain. All of the rest of the bits that make up the body are largely the same weight from person to person of a given height.
Muscle gain requires eating a large amount of protein. Fat gain requires eating a large amount of carbs and fats.
Weight gain powders primarily contain protein, as they are marketed towards body builders, who somewhat confusingly to feeders/feedees refer to their muscle gain simply as weight gain.
That being said, if your feedee is planning on gaining a very large amount of fat, it wouldn't hurt to also plan on gaining some muscle mass as well to maintain mobility and general health. Unfortunately, just adding protein to the diet won't result in added muscle gain like adding carbs and fats will result in added fat gain. You also have to work out in addition to eating more protein to build muscle. And adding protein really won't result in fat gain at all.
You can get fat from eating large amounts of some powders like Serious Mass gainer, but that is because it is a blend of protein and carbs and the carbs will go towards fat gain. But if it is fat you are after, there are cheaper and easier ways of getting those carbs like the ice cream + heavy cream shake suggested above.
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I think exercise is the best way to control visceral vs. subcutaneous fat as visceral fat tends to get burned first. But where the subcutaneous fat actually ends up is 100% genetic.
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18 hours ago, extra_m13 said:
very solid post and arguments of course. i do happen to agree, o pretty much everything. i think... it is all right, if a person chooses pleasure over anything else, concioussly, go all the way, 650, eat everything in sight and endure the hardship and enjoy everything there is. but... the not so cool scenario is when the person eats by distress or purely emotional and it is actually a vicious cycle.
I think point 4 still stands with the stress/emotional eaters. In that case, the eating behavior is pretty solidly in the realm of mental health disorder. Mental health is health, and making a moral issue out of health is still very counterproductive. Fat shaming someone who is fat because of a mental health disorder is guaranteed to only make things worse for that person.
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I made this post in another thread as a reply to someone who had made a comment about weight and health. But it was slightly off topic in that thread so I decided to give the post a thread of its own. So here it is, my rant about health and being fat.
- Weight is not the be-all and end-all of health. You may have heard of HAES. HAES does not mean that everyone who is fat is healthy. It does mean that it is possible for someone who is fat to be healthy. Yes, you have to put in a bit of work to attain health regardless of size, but someone who is fat and exercises regularly is probably healthier than someone who is skinny and sedentary. And somebody who is fat, exercises regularly, and has never smoked in their life is guaranteed to be way more healthy than somebody who is skinny, sedentary, and smokes 2 packs a day. The point is, if you see a fat person that you know nothing else about other than their outward appearance, you have no way of knowing the state of their health.
- Health is not a binary. You are not either healthy or unhealthy. It isn't even a single spectrum. There are many factors to health, some that you can control and some that you can't. You might run 10 miles a day and eat nothing but rabbit food and have a solid 20 BMI. And then you get an STD because your partner lied about their history. Or you get cancer because your house has high levels of radon that you didn't know about. Or you might have some severe food allergies. What "healthy" means is not an absolute, but personal for you and what works to get you through the day.
- Some people choose pleasure over health. And that is their personal choice. Sometimes that might mean being overindulgent with food. Sometimes that might mean being an adrenaline junky and doing extreme sports. As long as they are mature adults making consensual decisions rather than being coerced into risky behavior, people are allowed to live their lives how they see fit.
- Finally, health is not a moral thing. If somebody has a health issue due to a choice they made, whether it is diabetes related to being 400 lbs or a lingering injury from the aforementioned extreme sport, if it doesn't hurt you personally it is really none of your business. It is possible that the health issue makes them regret the choice, in which case moralizing is counterproductive because they are already being punished and any action to shame them will only add mental health issues on top of their physical health issues. Or it may be possible that they have accepted any issues simply as the cost of doing something they love and have learned to live with it. Or it could be that their health issues are unrelated to any of their life choices (see point 2), in which case placing a moral value on health is just a complete asshole move.
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On 1/23/2022 at 4:16 AM, Weight gain schadenfreude said:
I don't want to be a pedant, but you'd need to modify the results by regional population. Also wouldn't New England be included in "Atlantic Northeast"?
I could see an argument for separating New England from the DC-NY-Boston corridor as you could argue that they are culturally different regions. Much like how the Great Plains and Great Lakes regions both call themselves “Midwest”, but are quite different culturally. But then you could also argue that the South could likewise be subdivided into Atlantic Coast, Gulf Coast, Appalachia, etc. It all really is subjective.
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On 1/4/2022 at 8:55 PM, Deviant said:
...a lot of stuff...
- Weight is not the be-all and end-all of health. You have probably heard of (and probably already dismissed) HAES. HAES does not mean that everyone who is fat is healthy. It does mean that it is possible for someone who is fat to be healthy. Yes, you have to put in a bit of work to attain health regardless of size, but someone who is fat but exercises regularly is probably healthier than someone who is skinny and sedentary. And somebody who is fat, exercises regularly, and has never smoked in their life is guaranteed to be way more healthy than somebody who is skinny, sedentary, and smokes 2 packs a day. The point is, if you see a fat person that you know nothing else about other than their outward appearance, you have no way of knowing the state of their health.
- Health is not a binary. You are not either healthy or unhealthy. It isn't even a single spectrum. There are many factors to health, some that you can control and some that you can't. You might run 10 miles a day and eat nothing but rabbit food and have a solid 20 BMI. And then you get an STD because your partner lied about their history. Or you get cancer because your house has high levels of radon that you didn't know about. Or you might have some severe food allergies. What "healthy" means is not an absolute, but personal for you and what works to get you through the day.
- Some people choose pleasure over health. And that is their personal choice. Sometimes that might mean being overindulgent with food. Sometimes that might mean being an adrenaline junky and doing extreme sports. As long as they are mature adults making consensual decisions rather than being coerced into risky behavior, people are allowed to live their lives how they see fit.
- Finally, health is not a moral thing. If somebody has a health issue due to a choice they made, whether it is diabetes related to being 400 lbs or a lingering injury from the aforementioned extreme sport, if it doesn't hurt you personally it is really none of your business. It is possible that the health issue makes them regret the choice, in which your moralizing is counterproductive because they are already being punished and any action you take will only add mental health issues on top of their physical health issues. Or it may be possible that they have accepted any issues simply as the cost of doing something they love and have learned to live with it. Or it could be that their health issues are unrelated to any of their life choices (see point 2), in which case placing a moral value on health is just a complete asshole move.
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14 hours ago, vpprof said:
When I said "perception of powerlessness", I was referring to male fat admirers, not the feedees.
Curious, why do you think it is hot when someone is indulging themselves? What is it about getting fatter on purpose that is appealing?
I suppose I did misunderstand which side of the ** relationship you were referring to, but the point still stands. there is a perception that feedism is primarily about control, and thus can be classified as a subtype of S&M, whichever side the feeder and feedee take respectively.
But even though I consider myself a feeder and not just an FA, it is because the act of gaining weight gets me going in addition to a woman just being fat. There isn't really any hint of S&M in it at all. Instead, I think there might be a hedonistic aspect to it. Sex is pleasurable. Food is pleasurable. Fat is pleasurable. So more of all of the above is even better. I think it relates to why the Raiza Costa (never trust a skinny chef) thread in the celeb section is so popular. It is obvious that she is a bit of a hedonist when it comes to the pastries she makes, and that hedonism has resulted in her expanding figure. It is also fun to imagine (and some poor lonely deluded souls actually believe) that since she clearly enjoys her desserts, and since we enjoy the results of her decadence on her figure, that she enjoys the results as well.
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Regarding addiction, having a kink or a fetish may (or may not!) indicate some other psychological issue, but I don’t think that it in of itself is necessarily sign of an addiction. Indulging in kinks and fetishes can be a normal part of a healthy sex life.
On the other hand, a kink or fetish certainly can make it easier to develop a sex addiction, as it provides something specific to focus on. Sex, whether it involves a fetish or not, is addictive in the way that anything pleasurable such as shopping or gambling frequently are. I can see how fixating on a fetish could amplify the addictive potential for people predisposed to have an addictive personality.
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On 10/22/2020 at 1:17 PM, vpprof said:
The feedism topic is still virtually unexplored but from what I managed to learn and deduce, it is a form of sado-masochism. It is rooted in a perception of powerlessness. It often coincides with fetishes such as female strength, domination and also - on the other side of the coin - insecurities and misogyny.
For some people, perhaps. But feedism itself is not monolithic. There are certainly feeder sadists who get off on making women helpless. But there are also feeder subs who’s thing is to be told by a dom feedee to give her the princess treatment and cater to her voracious demands. For others, like many kinks and fetishes, it might just be a case of “you like what you like”.
For me personally, I don’t identify with S or M. For me, the fetish is more about the physicality of it. The fat form is beautiful. When someone gets fatter due to their self indulgences, it is hot. If someone indulgently embraces getting fatter on purpose, that is the best of all possibilities and I will gladly help them in their way. And on the flip side, I can find thin but beautiful women aesthetically pleasing, but they don’t do anything for me sexually.
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Set micro-goals. Like “I will eat X number of calories today”, or I will do a WG shake every night this week”.
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5 hours ago, stan28 said:
I don't think it started on purpose, but I do think there was a point she became into it. I think now is pure covid weight gain, but I don't know it's hard to explain. But the gain was to help promote the show. I would do the same thing to get viewers & I think she knows her audience too.
Despite what the average curvage member would like to believe, 90% of fat people are not fat on purpose. Even most people who are cool with being fat still don't gain weight on purpose. Hell, most fat fetish models don't even gain on purpose.
And I doubt that curvage mouth breathers are the target audience of her videos. Her videos definitely play up that decadence can be sensual, but she shows that by how she interacts with the deserts she makes, not by how she interacts with her body. The mainstream non-fa world understands that food itself can be decadent, and that is all she portrays in her videos.
Until she starts an OnlyFans site where she stuffs herself with her creations while rubbing and jiggling her belly (which I would definitely subscribe to btw), I will continue to be convinced that any gain is merely an unintentional side effect of her chosen career.
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It’s sad because Dall-E 3 does such a good job out of the box when it lets you. But the censor has gotten so bad that it is pushing me to learn the intricacies and endless tweaking required to get good results out of Stable Diffusion.