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Good luck getting those salewas!

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"BMI works for 99% of people." Define works? Because you've got 99% thrown in there as an obvious hyperbole to illustrate your point. But there's no need for that when actual statistics exist. The correlation of BMI obesity to actual obesity by body fat % is strong, but it sure isn't that strong. At best you could make the claim that it works for 90% of people. At best. But more reasonably is probably 80%. So, you know, a fifth of people. Because even though the guy was illustrating his point with Ronnie fucking Coleman, his example was still less extreme than yours. "WhAt aN iDiOT yOu ArE"

I've probably heard both, but I don't think I've ever heard a confusion so long as someone uses the right relative verb. If someone said (in reference to a noon meeting), "Let's bring it forward," I would interpret they wanted to hold the meeting sooner than it was scheduled as it is being brought closer to the present. If someone otherwise said, "Let's push it forward," I would interpret that they wanted to hold the meeting later than it was scheduled as it is being pushed further from the present. Though, in the latter case, the use of the word "forward" is odd and doesn't quite fit.

If you ate a protein powder that had 120 calories per scoop for somewhere between 20-25g of protein, it's still extra calories. Calories become fat if they're not used up. Your body can make protein into fat. This post sounds a lot like people who get surprised that they're working out and still getting fatter even though they've been drinking protein shakes with their workouts. You will gain fat if you drink protein shakes when your body didn't need it. Fat gain does not require large amounts of carbs and fats, it's just that carbs and fats require less chemical modification (energy expenditure) to become fatty acids.

Here's a fun one. The Long-Term Effects of Stress on Partner Weight Characteristics

Brought back some memories with the history here. Recalling how many Yahoo groups you had to keep track of. The different sites that came online/went offline. Fatland, if anyone remembers that one. Just crazy to think about the passage of time.

The issue is that I don't want to influence others to participate in something they would have otherwise not chosen for themselves. Do I believe in free will? Yes. I do. However, the duality of it is that we have free will but are also the sum of all our experiences, thoughts, genetics, etc. We already know that that words people hear and choose to yes change the physical structure of our brain on a microscale. The past couple years should be plenty enough evidence that people who are otherwise rational, intelligent people can still choose to believe things that otherwise are not rational or evident. If I could put it into one phrase? Analysis paralysis. I suppose a more fun example would be that scene from the first Matrix movie when Neo knocks over the vase because the Oracle said he would knock over the vase. It's a simplistic version because that's a single-variable that led to the outcome, more or less. Free will exists, but free will doesn't not mean all choices are made equally. People are going to be predisposed to certain choices that become available to them prior to knowing about them based on who they are up to the point prior to making the choice. I don't want to be the cause or influence on someone to choose to do something they would have otherwise not chosen for themselves if I was not involved. And past a certain point, it doesn't have to be rational anymore. I couldn't tell you what about my early life or elsewise caused me have that issue. I'm sure it has something to do with someone at some point blaming me for a choice that they made but that I had an influence on. Who knows. I'm not going to find a therapist who can uncover repressed memories from my past anytime soon, so...if you're looking for more answers , I don't imagine I'll be much help.

No, I don't think it is. And I assume it's anxiety-driven, this issue of mine. However, I do try to minimize my impact, and more than half of my relationships started because I was pursued and not the contrary. EDIT: What I think I wanted that to show was that I was afraid that I would be misperceiving a signal and put someone in a position to maybe not want to reject someone and be willing to a first date a shot. And then, I might be somehow influencing them to continue in a relationship they may not have chosen had I not asked them out to begin with. It's weird, man. I don't claim to know why I feel that way. I just know that I do.

I don't particularly agree with that interpretation, no. I know it's not the case for me. I'm not here to search for what it is I like and don't like. I already know most of those things about myself having been exploring these preferences back since about a decade before the first Curvage even existed. Back before yahoo groups existed. That thought didn't occur to me. Likely because of what I've said so far already about preferring not to have control over someone's actions like that. I know it's not actually having control over someone's actions, but I don't enjoy having influence over someone's actions in a relationship, much less any actual control. If someone wants to do something for me, I prefer it be entirely of their own volition and a choice they made solely based on what they have desire to do, not what they think it is I would like for them to do. Again, I know this isn't a nobility thing. It's just part of what works for me and what doesn't. Control is not something that works for me.

I get the sarcasm, and it's well received because I find nothing noble about it. Just who I have found that I am over time. Whether that's for X, Y, or Z reason is neither here nor there. I can't explain why I don't like somethings just as well as I can explain why I like others. As to the second part, it depends. A girl who is into it and is clearly finding pleasure in it herself...yeah, that's incredibly arousing. Videos that models make where it appears as if the girl is distressed about it are not as entertaining, but that obstacle is cleared by the obvious fact that if they're publishing it to this site, they most likely enjoy it. In real life? Not so much. When my wife laments her growing curves when she's trying on clothes that used to fit (and I happen to be around for it), I don't that enjoyable. If her comments are more along the lines of, "This is what happens when you only ever eat wearing sweatpants," then I enjoy it more. When trying to understand myself with it, the best answer I find is double-effect principle. Me getting pleasure out of something she gets pleasure out of seems to do the trick, even if there are negative effects. But if the scenario is that she's the one accepting those consequences as worth it for the pleasure received, then my enjoyment of it is in addition and not the cause.

The things I do not like aren't specific because they're not related specifically. A huge turnoff for me is the thought that who I am and what I'm into could, in the hypothetical, cause someone's life to be harder than what it needs to be. It doesn't matter if they're consenting. It doesn't matter if it's their fetish, too. The thought that what I'm into is something that's potentially making someone's life harder than it has to be hurts. That's just a thing for me.

I'm definitely not here to judge others for who they are or what they're into. But since the thread was asking specifically if it would be as sexy if it were more socially acceptable, I felt like putting a little into my answer about how the aspects that are more negative don't do it for me. If it does it for someone else, and they do that with a consenting partner, all great for them. But I don't feel that I'm judging by pointing out that there are some negative aspects for a feedee. And it's central to the question.

I know there's a lot of power play and degradation/humiliation and other stuff that people are into about it being taboo or whatever. I would imagine for them, being obese being socially acceptable would potentially reduce the enjoyment. For me, it wouldn't affect anything, might even improve how much I enjoy it. Personally, it's just about the softness and extra curves to me. I've looked at it like....the same way people might enjoy a before after of someone losing weight because they enjoy the after so much, i enjoy a before after of weight gain because i enjoy the after so much. I'm interested in the weight gain aspect of the fetish. But I'm interested in it primarily because of how much I enjoy the after shot. Not because I enjoy any of the negative aspects of it for her.

As others said, I'm not so sure about the mathematical formula. It's impossible for them to consider all the variables involved in nutrient partitioning, existing body composition, and diet that would play a role. However, what we do know about weight regain is that when you lose weight, it starves fat cells. If you only gained a little bit, you may not have experienced fat cell growth. However, if you gained more than 15 pounds (average person, your experience may vary), you created new fat cells. Those newly created fat cells don't go away with dieting. Fat cells release leptin. The higher your baseline leptin levels prior to a diet relative to ghrelin (hormone that makes you feel full), the more likely you are to gain weight back. Additionally, starved fat cells will preferentially grab fatty acids and take them into the cell. And, the more this cycle repeats, the more insensitive your body becomes to leptin (hormone that- as one effect- decreases appetite). Obese people have higher levels of leptin, but they are less sensitive to it. And voila. Yo-yo dieting is a thing. For a real life example of someone dieting and only making it easier for them to gain more weight later on, may I direct your attention to Katie Cummings.

My favorite for any model is laying down on bed belly play, both flat and on side. I pretty much buy every vid that has a gif or image of one of the curvage models like that. Oh, and exercise vids that have situps or hanging belly with pushups. Those get bought from me without hesitation.

I read through a good portion of this topic and have realized...I'm old. So many stories involved someone finding FF or Curvage and then diving in. Dimensions magazine, and honestly, before that, Jerry Springer. Those girls wore crop tops specifically because people would say they shouldn't wear crop tops. Like others here. I went through school mostly in the 90s. I honestly don't know if anything triggered it or if you're born with it. I just know you can't change it, and boy did I try to. Eventually, I just kinda accepted it and moved on. I think the earliest moments I can remember were Jerry Springer fat chicks wearing crop tops wrestling each other over who gets to say the coked out loser was their boyfriend. Something about the way their rolls bulged over their waistband seared into my brain and it stuck for life. I can say that when the internet came around that FUCKKKK was that great. Dimensions magazine was good. They had good stories but I'm not really a mature bbw fan or an ssbbw fan (yet, anyway, give yourself some time and you'll know what I mean). Then, you had yahoo groups. I thought that was a golden age. Then, youtube became a thing. Now we were really cookin. The Freshmen 15 experiment. Fatland.com when it was a thing. Eventually Curvage was founded and I've been on here opening up accounts and shamefully deleting them every so often ever since. So...there's that.

If you figure out how to live without guilt for these feelings exactly, I'll happily pay you for that cure. Constantly thinking, "Hey, great. Anytime my significant other hears me compliment them, all they can hear is, "You look fat in that, and I like it," and wondering how it must be to be in a relationship with someone like us if your partner isn't into it the same way always eats me up inside.