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Damn but everyone's too horny to actually listen to her. At best, it's always "damn you're right Candii, BUT we want X, y, & Z from you."

Nothings gonna change until the horny dudes on here decide to prioritize what people are going thru versus what they want from them. 

Candii this shit sucks and I'm so sorry you're going through so much guff from people who claim to support you. 

And people wonder why women suffer so much mentally. The world gaslights us 9.9/10 times we try to speak out about what's wrong. There's too much people (men) want from us to give a shit. 

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1 hour ago, Candii_Kayn said:

It’s not just me at this point. This is an issue that exists beyond Curvage. Models are harassed, doxxed, and sometimes worse…then people wonder why they suddenly vanish or don’t make any more content.
 

I don’t even think I need to mention a recent example that may very well cost the feedism community *another* wonderful content creator and beautiful model who made **really** good content! The cycle continues with another victim unfortunately because people. Don’t. Learn.

 

If you want your favorite content creator or model or whoever to continue making content, you support them…and that doesn’t mean telling them “oh you can still gain weight!” Supporting means standing up to subpar behaviors you see being directed at the content creators you like.


This shared experience of harassment and doxxing amongst models shouldn’t “come with the territory,” and it’s a shame that people still want to pass it off as being that…just part of the job

 

Its horrible, every time another model is exposed by "Fans", and the fact that some think it comes with the job are ignorant twats. Everyone is entitled to privacy, no matter what your passion is. I have myself been fortunate not to see people's rude messages, but from now on i wish to call out people who are disrespectful, and hope that i wont be alone in doing so, for the sake of creators.

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On 1/5/2022 at 12:02 PM, basketballcheese6969 said:

Why don’t we all just heed her words rather than debate against it? Standing up against trolls who just seek to cause trouble will likely never fully eradicate them, but it will surely decrease the number of them. Right now some of them never think twice before bashing someone from the comfort of behind their screen. If there are consequences for their actions, they may hold their tongue. And even if they don’t, if an overwhelming amount of people show their support in spite of those people, reassurance like that can be huge. So I say, rather than saying it’s useless, why don’t we band together to help support them. It’s simple kindergarten caliber lessons, treat others how you wish to be treated and stand up for those who can’t always for themselves. This community will be much better and healthier (lol) for it. Not to sound too cheesy, but ask not what your models can do for you, ask what you can do for your models.

Ideally the moderators of this forum (and all content sharing platforms) would delete negative comments and ban repeat offenders. Those are the only consequences that matter. Trolls have shown that public shaming doesn’t amount to much. There’s already a moderation function in place here, if it ultimately comes down to the community policing itself it turns into a negative flame war with no actual consequences.
 

I’m all for positivity and supporting creators, and generally trying to be decent to each other online, but words on a screen only carry so much weight. The moderators need to reconsider what their role is in retaining creators on the platform and creating a positive environment for sharing and discussing content.

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The problem is what do we DO about it? We don't have any power stop harassment on other platforms.  Sure we can down vote or fight back in the comments but what does that accomplish? It's just screaming into the void at this point.  

I tried for a month straight to get a video down on YouTube (you know the one) and all that happened was that it changed the algorithm so I didn't see it. 

The only thing i can even think of is to appeal to people's human decency to not want to harm innocent people they've never met.  That's the only thing that's been remotely affective.  Shaming does nothing but get these pieces of human trash more worked up.

 

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27 minutes ago, fattony20 said:

The problem is what do we DO about it? We don't have any power stop harassment on other platforms.  Sure we can down vote or fight back in the comments but what does that accomplish? It's just screaming into the void at this point.  

I tried for a month straight to get a video down on YouTube (you know the one) and all that happened was that it changed the algorithm so I didn't see it. 

The only thing i can even think of is to appeal to people's human decency to not want to harm innocent people they've never met.  That's the only thing that's been remotely affective.  Shaming does nothing but get these pieces of human trash more worked up.

 

This is my concern too. I'm not sure what action can really be taken to doing anything. It's yelling into the void. 

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2 hours ago, calibur56 said:

This is my concern too. I'm not sure what action can really be taken to doing anything. It's yelling into the void. 

If you’re not a mod or can’t fight a troll, be there for the models. I don’t mean beg for content, I mean appreciate the content they make and just be an all-around good person. Drown out the negative energy with positivity and it will make being a model worth it.

Also, keep an attitude that for every model that moves on, there will be others, so again don’t beg one model to keep working.

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13 hours ago, Candii_Kayn said:

I don’t even think I need to mention a recent example that may very well cost the feedism community *another* wonderful content creator and beautiful model who made **really** good content! The cycle continues with another victim unfortunately because people. Don’t. Learn.

God damn it, who are people harassing now? I'm not very plugged into the community, but it breaks my heart to hear stuff like this.

Edit: Holy shit, I just read up on what happened. Absolutely despicable.

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I'm not usually one to comment, but I figured now would be a good time to share my thoughts on this issue. 

First off, Candii you continue to keep on keeping on. You have already provided us with a ton of high quality content over the past few years. Do not feel pressured into making more content. I wish you the best with whatever you choose to do. If you happen to share more of your gain with us, great! If you just want to stick to Twitch, that's great too! Those streams have been a lot of fun so far! You gotta do what makes you happy and enjoy your life. Make your own decisions, and don't let other random people tell you how to live your life. 

Now addressing all of the negativity around the community, we can definitely do more to help eliminate some of the negative stuff. Reporting stolen content, making sure credit is given to the proper model if say someone reposts their picture on reddit, and just keep a chill/appreciative vibe around here. The moderators of different communities/sites definitely need to step up a little more to eliminate the negative comments. Maybe more moderators are needed in some places too. The main problem stems from the loud minority who complain, demand content, dox models, etc. We (the average user) can definitely try to report those people, contact mods, etc., and hopefully get their hateful/intrusive stuff removed. Sadly there are a lot of nasty people out there and regardless of how strict the moderation is and how fast we report them, some negative stuff will still make its way to the models. Its a damn shame. No one should be treated like that at all. The models put themselves out there on the internet to share their gain and create content for us, and there are always some rude people out there who will do their best to ruin it for everyone. I hope that we can get back to having a safe place for the models to share their content. 

Ultimately, to Candii and other models reading this, I hope you know that the large majority of people in the community appreciate you and wish the best for you. You all put in a lot of time and effort to make your content, and we thank you for that. We all want the negativity to stop. You deserve to feel safe when you join the community and be treated right. I hope that we (regular users and moderators) can all do more to keep the feedism community a safe place. 

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20 hours ago, ilikecereal said:

Ideally the moderators of this forum (and all content sharing platforms) would delete negative comments and ban repeat offenders. Those are the only consequences that matter.

You have good intentions but this is a terrible idea.

First of all, any troll spewing truly vile shit is going to have burner accounts and VPNs. They don't care if you ban then.

What will be left is all the regular people who may have differences in opinions on various topics arguing and getting banned for posting "negative comments". Hopefully you can see how a vague rule like this is a recipe for a shitshow. 

Look...the internet sucks sometimes. If Candii wants to leave I don't blame her. In fact, I would encourage it. Let her be a newlywed and enjoy life. Get as far away from weird porn fetish websites filled with creeps who want to doxx her and probably worse.

 

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I think there's too much of a focus and modern society on trying to get to the root of the problem right away and not taking emotions and feelings into account. Even if there's no stop to trolls for the rest of all time and that's your vocal defending won't do anything but be words on the screen doesn't mean that there's nothing you can't do for support. when things like this happen there's too much focus on going after those who hurt the person instead of sending your kind words and support to those who really need it ❤️

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15 hours ago, JP_Bittenbinder said:

God damn it, who are people harassing now? I'm not very plugged into the community, but it breaks my heart to hear stuff like this.

Edit: Holy shit, I just read up on what happened. Absolutely despicable.

 

hi could you clarify on this issue? i am also not very plugged into the community. feel free to dm me

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I probably shouldn't ask for a minimum wage because I'm just one person against all these corporations, and I shouldn't fight to be treated equally or fairly as a minority because the majority won't listen? .etc... Of course not.

Yelling into the void works. It takes time, it takes numbers, but it works. 

You don't, and may never know, but that down-vote, that report to a mod, that kind message of support may be the one that tips the balance, that affects a change. Collectively we can make change. Some act openly, some behind the scenes, don't always assume you are the only one acting, and lose heart.

The internet is a strange place. Use the tools given to you, and if you find they are lacking, raise that with the site too. It won't solve the problem, but it's a start. And if that doesn't work, vote with your URLs - websites die without traffic.

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On 1/13/2022 at 4:17 PM, Candii_Kayn said:

It’s not just me at this point. This is an issue that exists beyond Curvage. Models are harassed, doxxed, and sometimes worse…then people wonder why they suddenly vanish or don’t make any more content.
 

I don’t even think I need to mention a recent example that may very well cost the feedism community *another* wonderful content creator and beautiful model who made **really** good content! The cycle continues with another victim unfortunately because people. Don’t. Learn.

 

If you want your favorite content creator or model or whoever to continue making content, you support them…and that doesn’t mean telling them “oh you can still gain weight!” Supporting means standing up to subpar behaviors you see being directed at the content creators you like.


This shared experience of harassment and doxxing amongst models shouldn’t “come with the territory,” and it’s a shame that people still want to pass it off as being that…just part of the job

 

You've done a good thing Candii, you've raised awareness about a problem that's worse than we realised.

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I say for every negative post there should be two positive posts, that's the only way we can really help out. I understand that confronting a troll may feel like the right thing, but it's playing straight into their hand. The only reason people like that post is for attention, if they're ignored, they'll eventually go away. At least, in theory that is. I just felt the need to post here, not doing so would feel wrong. Best of luck to @Candii_Kayn in her future endeavors and whatever they may entail, and most importantly do what you feel is best, don't buy into any pressure that may turn you one way or another, just do what is true to you at heart.

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4 hours ago, A12121212 said:

I say for every negative post there should be two positive posts, that's the only way we can really help out. I understand that confronting a troll may feel like the right thing, but it's playing straight into their hand. The only reason people like that post is for attention, if they're ignored, they'll eventually go away. At least, in theory that is. I just felt the need to post here, not doing so would feel wrong. Best of luck to @Candii_Kayn in her future endeavors and whatever they may entail, and most importantly do what you feel is best, don't buy into any pressure that may turn you one way or another, just do what is true to you at heart.

Especially on r****t, the rest of us can just downvote and report the trolls to hell. Won't stop them but even inconveniencing them would be helpful imo 

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10 hours ago, Cvcvcv said:

Especially on r****t, the rest of us can just downvote and report the trolls to hell. Won't stop them but even inconveniencing them would be helpful imo 

You need to be really careful of doing stuff like downvoting, the situation with GGGF blew up on cringetopia and on its spin-offs in part because she posted to ask for help from our community to get it taken down and the cringetopia reddittors took it as an attempt to brigade them. It’s one thing doing that on places like curvage or on fake/stolen content accounts but subs on Reddit like that have 100,000’s of active users and as we saw in the GGGF incident the backlash on there against our community was huge and may have actually done more damage.

I think a big problem with a lot of sites is weak moderation of public online spaces (Reddit being a good example), the problem there being that the issue is far more widespread than just us. That’s hard to solve because stronger moderation on places like reddit will invariably lead to backlash about censorship and free speech from its users.

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On 1/14/2022 at 2:56 PM, shorty2blitz said:

I probably shouldn't ask for a minimum wage because I'm just one person against all these corporations, and I shouldn't fight to be treated equally or fairly as a minority because the majority won't listen? .etc... Of course not.

Yelling into the void works. It takes time, it takes numbers, but it works. 

You don't, and may never know, but that down-vote, that report to a mod, that kind message of support may be the one that tips the balance, that affects a change. Collectively we can make change. Some act openly, some behind the scenes, don't always assume you are the only one acting, and lose heart.

The internet is a strange place. Use the tools given to you, and if you find they are lacking, raise that with the site too. It won't solve the problem, but it's a start. And if that doesn't work, vote with your URLs - websites die without traffic.

"Yelling into the void works. It takes time, it takes numbers, but it works."

 

Collective action is one of the very few things that does work. Indeed, that's part of why some discourage it SO strongly.

 

I don't know the deets of what's going on but I'm here for anyone that needs it.

 

 

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