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2 Video Quality Options for Curvage Clips?


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For a while now i’m buying plenty of clips. More recently i’ve noticed that the file sizes (bit rates) are shrinking, and the quality is deteriorating, even from girls who used to have much better quality before. Today i bought a clip - 720p, 9:15, 100mb = running at 1330 kbps. That’s the quality from the early 2000s. Barely watchable, and i’m pretty sure this pixel mess was caused by the low bitrate.

 

Now i’m aware that there are users with different priorities. On one hand those like me who download the clips and watch them on decent (larger) displays, especially since such displays got so affordable. They want quality and don’t mind bigger files. On the other hand there are users who prefer to stream, maybe to phones, maybe need to watch their data plan, so they prefer smaller file sizes. And accept reduced quality, to some extent. Very different priorities, definitely!

 

I got the impression that you are briefing the girls, like telling them to watch the file sizes, to go for lower file sizes, whatsoever. Of course you didn’t tell to go as low as that girl did. But this just happens then, as a result.

 

Anyway, since  i am editing + encoding the videos for a site that a few of you may know, i’m well aware of the problem with the different user priorities. So we are offering a whole bunch of different quality options. My idea for Curvage now would be: What about 2 quality options? One for streaming users (with the option to download too) with reasonable quality/lower file sizes, one for downloaders with better quality?

 

The next question then would be: How to implement this? Asking the girls to upload 2 versions from now on would be too much (time, etc). I think the best way would be to stick with one upload, in good quality. With Curvage implementing an online encoder to generate the 2nd version. Ok, must admit i have no idea how much that would cost. I’m just optimistic… With this solution each clip would show up with 2 buttons: "Streaming/Download Version" and "High Quality Download Version"… Another idea would be to just encourage the girls to submit each clip individually, in different qualities. But i think that wouldn’t work. And, even worse, mess up the clipstore (navigation).

 

A final comment about 'better quality': I’m not promoting insane quality demands or file sizes. So, for my work, after only a little research and testing, i’m using the (free) Handbrake encoder more or less with standard settings, at factor 17 (18 would probably be still good) "constant quality rate" - that choice is important because the bitrate gets adjusted on the basis of the images: outdoors shots f. ex. usually have more complex image information = they need a higher bitrate/higher file sizes. Easy! Anyway, in other words, I’m just looking for a way to get rid of this current need to compress so rigidly on Curvage.

 

Thoughts?

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HI Panhype

I love the forward thinking.

Part of the issue is that we operate a little bit differently here. We function as a market place and a service for the models. (not the other way around). IE: We work for the models.
We take no control over the models or their products. We take special care to make sure the exact product the model provides is what is delivered to the customer. Each model is in charge of running their own business here.

We do provide recommended guidelines and extensive training regarding how to upload a high quality steaming product. But not every model reads or utilizes our advice.

If something is not up to the expected quality. The next step would be to reach out to the model directly

Thank you :)

 

 

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  • 3 years later...

I agree with you, I don't believe models have any say whether their videos get compressed here cause literally every vid here is compressed, it seems to happen algorithmically after submitting perhaps as a way to cut costs. A little compression is normal but the downsizing here is more severe than Youtube and the quality on that site is already colloquially referred to as Fake-HD. It becomes especially noticeable when the camera the content has been shot with is low quality.

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HI,

Your input is invaluable, and we'd like to clarify our approach to video compression.

Ensuring a balance between high-quality content and broad compatibility is crucial for us. In the past, we faced challenges with videos not playing or being incompatible on various devices. To mitigate this, we have employed modern compression techniques to optimize certain videos without compromising their quality.

We use a state-of-the-art compression system designed to maintain the original quality of videos. This system is carefully calibrated to ensure that the original dimensions, including height and width, as well as the frame rate, remain unchanged. The alterations we make are centered on optimizing the bitrate and video format, utilizing modern optimization codecs. This approach ensures videos are tailored for a variety of devices and network conditions, all while maintaining their original quality and integrity. (non aggressive)

The positive feedback we've received since this implementation has been heartening. Our extensive testing, designed to rigorously evaluate video quality, indicates that the improvements we've made maintain the high standard of our content, aligning closely with the original quality. There has also been a significant reduction in playback issue complaints. This suggests that our method successfully caters to the diverse needs of our audience, maintaining high-quality content while enhancing accessibility.

We understand that perceptions of video quality can vary based on individual preferences and the devices used for viewing. However, our tests and customer feedback consistently validate the high standard of our videos, countering any concerns about quality deterioration.

We value your feedback, as it is essential in our continuous effort to improve our services. If you have specific examples or further concerns, please feel free to reach out via PM. We are here to address them promptly.

Thank you for your continued support and for being an integral part of the Curvage community.

Thank you :)

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