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Body Positivity, Flirting With The Weight Gain Fantasy, Broadsides, Newer Ideals & The New Diet Culture


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Digitalized globalization of culture, fashion, medias, arts and ideas swifting to-and-fro betwist the Western hemisphere and the rest of the world following the public launch of social medias during the late 2000s-to-early 2010s, coupled from one hand by the mediatically-handled corporate scaling of fewer sub-national/trans-national non-Eurocentric ideals of beauty long rummaging within North American countries (such like the still-controversial "Big Booty Era" amid else) and, from a second hand, louder questioning about the presumed validity of vapidly utilitarian (thin-centered) ideals of beauty in popular medias and the fashion industry frim a second hand, has opened up following 2012 an ever-uproaring reinvigoration of the fat acceptance movement at its third wave of existence.

 

Models whose sizes alone long doomed them from being ever sidelined far away from the greatest runway events and their scrawny figures wailing ghoulishly over the podium, found themselves rapidly beneath the spotlight in a matter of clicks with earnest attention and curiosity. Within the next fewer years, names such like the tattoo girl Tess Holliday, the veteran-ranked Velvet d'Amour, an once-waifily-silhouetted-then-one-hundred-pounds-heavier Tara Lynn freshly reconverted, a Hispanic American single-mother-of-multiple-children-turned-Miss-Plus-Size-America-turned-B-list-celebrity named Rosie Mercado who would never have imagined the same sixty-or-so-inches wide haunches that forbade her from enjoying a ride on a bike or fearing small hallways and turnstiles would someday propel her to success, the regretfully-unforgotten first black Plus Size supermodel Joelle Borgella (R.I.P.) and the list goes on.

Millions of white girls and younger women whose mothers grew old still jealousively being pressured into looking like the next Jane Fonda or having their older sisters being pressured to choose between Mischa Barton' (long before her mom bods's days) , XTina' (from her years before she has gone up beyond size Large) or Jillian Michaels's figures as ideals to thrive for, now hesitates between a Kardashian's cosmetically enhanced backside or hoping to look like a pleasantly obese Ashley Graham (from the days she was still obese, of course) ... whom for women and younger girls of other races, that's a whole another story to cover. 

 

To these days, the motto "Fat Is The New Black" never rung so true. And at the upturn summers of an exponentially aggrandizing cash flow such like the Plus Size / Body Positivity machine, the blacker the merrier. It became in U.S.A. , Brazil and a fewer European countries more-and-more frequently heard about how mainstream Curvy and Plus Size models are so vividly encouraged by their agents to engorge themselves extensively, subconsequently going up several sizes up with little to no medically monitored restriction regarding those seemingly-queer diets... if you are curvy, grow curvier, if you are thicc then grow extrathiccer, if you are plasantly plump then grow bigger and if you're big already and still booking, then say farewell to roller-costers and a decent economic seat at any airplane.

 

Even many couples of those are counted amongst social media "influencers" and Youtube fashion / MUKBANG / fitness creator makers as the years passes. Weight gain within this complex networking of different communities has lost the unappealing sheen it had back to the days "The Biggest Loser" used to be a major international television hit and that Eddie Murphy could still make crude skits about rampant obesity within the average-waging to socially-upward African-American families (Nutty Professor I, Nutty Professor II) without being accused of fat stigma and Misogynoir (Norbit) while Martin Lawrence and Tyler Perry could still make fun of it (Big Momma's Home trilogy films, Madea films) as much as they portrayed them as transvestizing tokens for a public far less sensitive to the coveted social and political issues Eddie Murphy nailed long before than even the most cherished Plus Size icons are now looking, exactly like Sherman Klump before them, for their fluorescent blue hued instantaneous slimming formulas.

 

 Because whether we like it or not, being fat and notorious for thìs before being booked and having your wallets is all fun and game, the tasteful savory flooding from their palate to down their bellies inching forward-and-downwards or their beam widening heavier-and-heavier, the satisfactory gooseflesh of alleviating victory as they lurch themselves out of their expansive studded couchs more laboriously than ever, is liberating... but most of them end up developping lots of anxiety and internal conflicts about IT.

 

... yes. I mean FEEDERISM. Everything about it without the name neither the trademark prejudical imagery that comes along.

Are they gaining weight to ensure their booking rates? Are they gaining weight to better look more reliable and cimmercially inclusive for the predominantly-overweight population that constitutes their clientele?? Are they willfully selling commodity fetish content by doing it??? Then, congratulations: this is simply an altered iteration of the same play led by BigCuties, Curvage, Pornhub, Lucy-V-dotorg, 50InchesOrBetter and so many other adult entertainment platforms does for years, even decades for a few of them. The fact than a overwhelming majority those same mainstream models like to eiter feign not knowing their existence - in spite having half of their googled content being just about it (you can thank me. And everyone else) - or discarding vehemently the Fat Admirer community as "fringe" , "creepy" and "toxic" is one thing I cannot agree personally-- because their comment sections on social medias and Youtube videos aren't always filled with the best specimen of gentlemen and ladies as well... but acting in willful ignorance is worse.

 

Is that possible the way than Dieting Culture is counterproductively evolving in broadsides from Body Positivism was all about?? A means to escape from the emotional and psychological turmoil that constitutes all of those logical fallacies, fattening diets and edgy leaps forward the unknown?? A means to secure their health over money and notoriety?? Or the contrary??? Any else???

 

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3 hours ago, Kletka2035 said:

Ugh, I always hate these conversations. The longer the girl has been fat, the worse it hurts when they start losing weight. Sometimes I’m tempted to just stop following their content, out of fear that I’ll be just end up watching them shrink and shrink and shrink, eventually getting some surgery and then talking about how much better their life is now that they’re thin just to pour salt on their former followers’ wounds. Cynical, I know. 

 

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12 minutes ago, John Smith said:

 

I don’t know if you remember that topic I made the other day, but today my therapist helped me work through it, and I finally realized that my suspicion was right; the reason I only like fat girls is because of the fatphobic abuse I endured as a child. I have no desire to change my sexuality, but ultimately it is pathological in origin and a lot of the things I say on this website stem from that fucked up pathology. So just keep that in mind when you repost my comments. 

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So in keeping what I just said, that story you just posted about the model who lost weight is like a knife in my heart. You can’t imagine how many heavier celebrities and tv stars I’ve felt attached to over the years, only for them to lose weight. Every time I see a cute big girl finally getting represented in the media, it’s like this emotional void inside me is filled to the brim with ooey gooey warm feelings; but eventually the girl gives into the pressure to lose weight. Then the good feelings are gone and I feel like a saggy, deflated sack. 

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10 hours ago, Kletka2035 said:

I don’t know if you remember that topic I made the other day, but today my therapist helped me work through it, and I finally realized that my suspicion was right; the reason I only like fat girls is because of the fatphobic abuse I endured as a child. I have no desire to change my sexuality, but ultimately it is pathological in origin and a lot of the things I say on this website stem from that fucked up pathology. So just keep that in mind when you repost my comments. 

Yes, I remember about your thread. Sometimes, there happens than attraction toward either heavier and gaining partners or the obsessive desire to fatten up thyself is rooted in past traumatic events the person has undergone.

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10 hours ago, Kletka2035 said:

So in keeping what I just said, that story you just posted about the model who lost weight is like a knife in my heart. You can’t imagine how many heavier celebrities and tv stars I’ve felt attached to over the years, only for them to lose weight. Every time I see a cute big girl finally getting represented in the media, it’s like this emotional void inside me is filled to the brim with ooey gooey warm feelings; but eventually the girl gives into the pressure to lose weight. Then the good feelings are gone and I feel like a saggy, deflated sack. 

A lot of Fat Admirers are feeling this way. 

Moreso, given how so many people outside the community reacted negatively to Rosie Mercado and Ashley Graham's weight losses, a few years ago, we are definitively not alone in this: otherwise, why does we found an entire size-breeding feedist subculture entwined within the Curvy and Plus Size modelling industries, if the major leitmotiv is not based out of a capitalistic supply-and-demand business model??

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that is another complex matter. and there are different ways to approach it. first of all. we come from an extreme situation in which we were asking ladies to be seriously underweight. in the last decades there has been a culture of over eating and getting fat has been the result, causing,, even if we denied here, a lot of problems in terms of costs and health care demand in the western world. so yeah , it is easier to fit in a society that lets you live more comfortably and that allows you to have a belly than in another that requires you, or that comes from requiring you to eat cotton just to feel full and don´t gain an ounce. 

how is the pendulum moving ? probably from one extreme to the other. just look at how common it has been for us to expect a model to get over 500 pounds as if that were an easy normal and healthy thing to do. things to think about. food for thought. 

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1 hour ago, extra_m13 said:

that is another complex matter. and there are different ways to approach it. first of all. we come from an extreme situation in which we were asking ladies to be seriously underweight. in the last decades there has been a culture of over eating and getting fat has been the result, causing,, even if we denied here, a lot of problems in terms of costs and health care demand in the western world. so yeah , it is easier to fit in a society that lets you live more comfortably and that allows you to have a belly than in another that requires you, or that comes from requiring you to eat cotton just to feel full and don´t gain an ounce. 

how is the pendulum moving ? probably from one extreme to the other. just look at how common it has been for us to expect a model to get over 500 pounds as if that were an easy normal and healthy thing to do. things to think about. food for thought. 

An excellent matter to discuss about.

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Aaaaaaaaa-nd the Body Positivity paradox strikes again...!!

8 hours ago, md2069 said:


 

 

7 hours ago, zachi said:

those trunks... thighs...

 

7 hours ago, md2069 said:

Yeah she seems quite nimble on her feet despite the size of those things........I was expecting her to lose her balance, stumble and trip while walking on that treadmill 😂😂😂.

 

5 hours ago, John Smith said:

She's quite tall and athletic, moreso even highly active in spite her Rubenesque body proportions. Unlikely KingSteph...

 

3 hours ago, John Smith said:

I can't believe she's still able to fit into size 16/18 swimsuits while being this corpulent...

 

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1 hour ago, md2069 said:

Someone is lying to themselves 😂😂😂........Even though a lot of these plus size models have put on significant amounts of weight over the last few years.  Most if not all will never admit to being more than a size 16-18........That is the magical number since when you start getting into the size 20 and over range people will really start to see you as fat.  So even though Tabria is 245+ and claims to be proud of her size.  I still see some disingenuousness on her part with the down playing of her clothing size.

 

1 minute ago, John Smith said:

They're all "body positive" when it serves their agenda or egoes, not when it come to face up the truth.

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This whole topic kind of freaks me out, because I tend to think if my preferences as having very little to do with the mainstream culture. I don’t think it’s possible that fat will be “in” any time soon because most of the larger women allowed in the mainstream media aren’t that big and they tend to lose even more weight over time. It’s “thicc”, aka kind of chubby, big butt, and a stomach that at least seems kind of flat even if it isn’t. You really won’t see a woman with a gut, back rolls, or protruding hips on a magazine cover. But on the other hand, I’m actually a little afraid of normal people beginning to like what I like. I’ve been so used to sitting in my own little special isolated corner that I’m afraid of outsiders invading my space. I like fat for my own fucked up reasons and I’m afraid of competing with men who aren’t so obsessive, rigid, and tortured like me. My sexuality is a product of bullying and abuse, not this feel-good “slayyyyy queen” fluff on social media. Of course I want fat girls to like their fat bodies and not lose weight, but I also want them to be just like me; social outcasts who fear and avoid mainstream standards. I’m afraid that a girl would never date me unless she’s stuck in the same foxhole as me. 

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For the posterity.

 

On 11/23/2020 at 12:39 AM, Verlorener said:

Funny thing is that she thinks the “Loey lane weight gain” google search is negative scrutiny. Does she know that 95% of that comes from us? 
Sure, I get that she probably doesn’t want to be treated as a fetish object or have her weight constantly talked about. But she’s letting men pay to see her in scant clothing, she’s not naive about what kind of men like her and what we like about her. So the fact that she’s bothered by people being interested in her weight gain is...I don’t know. 

BP is such a mess. I think a lot of these girls are looking for the ideal size-blind man who will happily date a fat girl but doesn’t have any sexual preoccupation with fat girls whatsoever. I’m not sure how realistic that is. Am I wrong? Be honest, how many men prefer a girl loey’s size but don’t have any “dirty” thoughts about weight gain or fat? I mean, american culture is OBSESSED with weight loss. It’s kind of hard for men who like big girls not to be affected by the taboo aspect of fat.

 

On 11/23/2020 at 4:48 PM, John Smith said:

The irony about the default average North American Body Positive "advocate" / "influencer" on social medias is that they're all championing in favor of the size-blind, funny, epicene Prince Charming or the tall, musclebound Chad able to benchpress their heft while tenderly kissing them when trurhfully, they suggestively flaunt their blubber for the size-friendly male ethnic demographics as well as the default incels and simps with poor social skills squeaking incessantly around this community about how they dreamt they act like the mindless porking behemoths they constantly keep teasing about.

 

And all of those while never really minding about the former groups, being outspoken to call out every once amd agaim the same socalled creeps they keep earning money upon their kinky tendencies and spiting those who never fully fit either of those tropes they keep juggling amd hustling along...

@grateful @md2069 

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On 11/23/2020 at 7:48 PM, md2069 said:

You are correct.........Men here seem to be oblivious to the implications of someone like Miss Lane as they are too busy giving in to the desires of their loins.........The fact that she thinks she can be extremely overweight but want to specify that to date her the guy has to be in shape is ridiculous to the say the least.........Women like to perpetrate the fraudulent idea that they are always the ones to overlook appearance and it’s men who are shallow..........Women have always been shallow especially when they are younger...........Bottom line is that a lot of this body positivity movement has ended up being men being vilified for desiring certain types i.e. anyone not fat, overweight or larger while women are free to pick and choose who they see fit actually tending to shun overweight and/or not conventionally attractive men..........Sadly Men have made things much worse on themselves by the extreme thirst they show on social media.......making even average to below average women think that they are some kind of premium catch........Many of these same women are making a tidy some on OF and other pay per view platforms from men.  I’ve said it before but men here really do think they are doing some kind of public service to humanity because they have a preference for larger women.........They don’t realize that funneling money to the pay sites of larger women doesn’t make them any less of a simp than men who do the same for smaller women.

 

On 11/23/2020 at 8:59 PM, John Smith said:

That is the Red Blubber truth. 👑☎️🖲

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14 hours ago, asdfasdff said:

What in the blue hell.... 😕

Take that shit somewhere else lol 

 

12 hours ago, md2069 said:

😂😂😂😂😂............Not a chance in blue hell.............

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Who gives an actual fuck what someone wants in a S/O or how they want to interact or build each other up or feel about themselves. Every one of you are on this site too. Let people live their life and do whatever. Idk why yal are getting butthurt about it.

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On 11/24/2020 at 10:23 PM, asdfasdff said:

Who gives an actual fuck what someone wants in a S/O or how they want to interact or build each other up or feel about themselves. Every one of you are on this site too. Let people live their life and do whatever. Idk why yal are getting butthurt about it.

Okay.

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I’ve said it before, I don’t think it’s my place to judge fat women who are only attracted to really athletic men- even though I am not a very athletic looking man. I don’t consider fat women to be inferiors- they deserve to be with someone they like just as much as anyone else. I hope to find a woman is genuinely very attracted to my body, not one who wants a man with a 6 pack but just “settles” for me because she thinks doesn’t “deserve” what she actually wants. 
On that note, there is something satisfying about being madly attracted to a body type that the mainstream treats as the bottom of the barrel. A feeling of freedom from a cruel set of standards that I resented even as a child. 

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14 hours ago, Verlorener said:

I’ve said it before, I don’t think it’s my place to judge fat women who are only attracted to really athletic men- even though I am not a very athletic looking man. I don’t consider fat women to be inferiors- they deserve to be with someone they like just as much as anyone else. I hope to find a woman is genuinely very attracted to my body, not one who wants a man with a 6 pack but just “settles” for me because she thinks doesn’t “deserve” what she actually wants. 

Very well said. 

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On 11/27/2020 at 1:03 AM, Verlorener said:

I’ve said it before, I don’t think it’s my place to judge fat women who are only attracted to really athletic men- even though I am not a very athletic looking man. I don’t consider fat women to be inferiors- they deserve to be with someone they like just as much as anyone else. I hope to find a woman is genuinely very attracted to my body, not one who wants a man with a 6 pack but just “settles” for me because she thinks doesn’t “deserve” what she actually wants. 
On that note, there is something satisfying about being madly attracted to a body type that the mainstream treats as the bottom of the barrel. A feeling of freedom from a cruel set of standards that I resented even as a child. 

I appreciate your feedback, but that is absolutely not what I and @md2069 wanted to mean.

 

The point was clear: it's not about one obese woman's preferences that bothers, but about the hypocrisy of many socalled Body Positivity advocates from the Plus Size end of the spectrum who systematically belittle and demean their target demographics while renforcing ideals of preferences toward people who mostly wouldn't otherwise laid an eye onto them-- and when they get the opportunity to fall on the jackpot, expect from the minority from ignoring they have themselves preferences toward the same exact bigger size they keep preaching its benefits.

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1 hour ago, John Smith said:

I appreciate your feedback, but that is absolutely not what I and @md2069 wanted to mean.

 

The point was clear: it's not about one obese woman's preferences that bothers, but about the hypocrisy of many socalled Body Positivity advocates from the Plus Size end of the spectrum who systematically belittle and demean their target demographics while renforcing ideals of preferences toward people who mostly wouldn't otherwise laid an eye onto them-- and when they get the opportunity to fall on the jackpot, expect from the minority from ignoring they have themselves preferences toward the same exact bigger size they keep preaching its benefits.

Yeah I think this quote from a former body positive model says it all............My issue (and I believe yours as well) with people here is the self righteousness.  If you like fat.........overweight.........or very overweight women fine.........But the whole idea that you are doing some kind of public service to women or that you have some kind of moral superiority over someone who likes very thin or anorexic women is ridiculous.  In that respect a lot of society feels that way..........Now you have a lot of very overweight women feeling they are some kind of social justice warrior and actually just very thin women aren’t “body positive” and are actually some kind of anti-feminist..........Simply pandering to a group because it is now the “in” thing doesn’t make it any better be it if a woman is really fat or really thin.........Finally the crowd here that believes “I just come here for entertainment” and bristle when they see commentary other than who is fat and/or getting fatter are most likely the same ones who believe that social activism by athletes is bad because they just want to watch sports..........Well Newsflash athletics and/or entertainment in general are a microcosm of society at large not an escape from it.  History shows they go hand in hand..........For example Dr. Seus also penned some very politically slanted comics during WWII.........

 

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I think it is an old story:  People are into what they are into, and everything in between is marketing, sales and self-promotion.

 

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14 hours ago, md2069 said:

Yeah I think this quote from a former body positive model says it all............My issue (and I believe yours as well) with people here is the self righteousness.  If you like fat.........overweight.........or very overweight women fine.........But the whole idea that you are doing some kind of public service to women or that you have some kind of moral superiority over someone who likes very thin or anorexic women is ridiculous.  In that respect a lot of society feels that way..........Now you have a lot of very overweight women feeling they are some kind of social justice warrior and actually just very thin women aren’t “body positive” and are actually some kind of anti-feminist..........Simply pandering to a group because it is now the “in” thing doesn’t make it any better be it if a woman is really fat or really thin.........Finally the crowd here that believes “I just come here for entertainment” and bristle when they see commentary other than who is fat and/or getting fatter are most likely the same ones who believe that social activism by athletes is bad because they just want to watch sports..........Well Newsflash athletics and/or entertainment in general are a microcosm of society at large not an escape from it.  History shows they go hand in hand..........For example Dr. Seus also penned some very politically slanted comics during WWII.........

 

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I partly agree and partly disagree with what she said.

I think the money making aspect of it is true; Erotic BP, aka trying to sell yourself to men as a sex object while at the same time preaching about fat acceptance, is an awkward line to walk. I’m not saying they’re bad or they’re hypocrites, necessarily, but there’s something that just feels a little off about it. Is she advocating for herself or doing me a service? Should these two be intertwined? Should I myself even be intertwining fat politics and fap material, the way I often do on this sight? I’m not so sure. BBW Tiktok is quite a toxic mess because of that exact dynamic. 

On that note, I disagree because...somebody has to go out there and advocate for fat women! Fat people in general. It’s still so goddamn stigmatized to be fat or be attracted to it. It’s just that the people doing the activism are imperfect. I’m not one of those hypocrites who watches porn and pretends to be against it; I love consuming porn. But I won’t pretend it’s a great industry. Virtue signaling and porn don’t mix well. These BP models who gain 100 lbs and then start selling it in onlyfans or whatever...it was always too good to be true. 
 

EDIT; And I don’t want a medal for liking fat woman...I guess what I really want is a consolation prize for experiencing an entire puberty of shame and confusion. When people say things like “big whoop, you’re not virtuous for liking fat chicks”, my gut reaction is “You know what asshole, I AM better than all those little bitch cool kids from high school, because if they were in my shoes, they would have hid their attraction. They would never have fuckin admitted to it cuz it’s ‘weird’ and ‘nasty’. It’s not as hard as being LGBT, but it’s up there. And in some ways it’s worse because at least what they like isn’t considered ugly”. 

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I don't think it's hypocrisy to preach body positivity and not be attracted to every body type. You can still preach for gay rights and not be attracted to men. 🤷‍♂️

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10 hours ago, asdfasdff said:

I don't think it's hypocrisy to preach body positivity and not be attracted to every body type. You can still preach for gay rights and not be attracted to men. 🤷‍♂️

The problem is most exactly about those here who preach for gay rights while not being attracted to men, but regardless want to berate those who don't as well while telling to their "best homie" not to act too manly on them when they are occasionally cross-dressing.

 

This kind of toxic mindset. Not the advocacy in general.

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On 11/29/2020 at 6:05 AM, Verlorener said:

EDIT; And I don’t want a medal for liking fat woman...I guess what I really want is a consolation prize for experiencing an entire puberty of shame and confusion. When people say things like “big whoop, you’re not virtuous for liking fat chicks”, my gut reaction is “You know what asshole, I AM better than all those little bitch cool kids from high school, because if they were in my shoes, they would have hid their attraction. They would never have fuckin admitted to it cuz it’s ‘weird’ and ‘nasty’. It’s not as hard as being LGBT, but it’s up there. And in some ways it’s worse because at least what they like isn’t considered ugly”. 

Easy there, soldier. You are "admitting" fatties turn you on to other people who are turned on by fatties in the anonymous setting of a forum dedicated to fatties. You're hardly Joan of Arc. And it's not like you have to keep slim girls at bay with a stick in real life.

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