Fat Fetishism : A Game of Gladiators?

[John Smith]

Just in case these posts end up in the Abyss, I think it is worth it to debate about that subtopic.

[John Smith]

 

On 5/17/2020 at 4:02 AM, thefeedernextdoor said:

For anyone wondering, she just posted this on her tumblr.

 

"hello my friends! it’s been a lil bit! i’ve been taking some time off to rlly focus on myself n my goals n my relationships! n it was actually felt like a huge weight (no pun intended) off my shoulders to be able to take a break from this.

i felt rlly stressed and overwhelmed and held myself to really high expectations that made me dread participating in this community. being a content creator feels like a competition. i was constantly worried about who’s the hottest, the fattest, gaining the most, gaining the quickest, producing the most content, n getting the most interaction.

this turned into a full time thing for me, constantly checking my messages, posting pictures, filming videos, all for the purpose of staying relevant. but the reality of the situation is that the community is everchanging and a lot of people just move on to the next gal fattening herself up *better* than you.

so that being said, i’m done making paid content n will b shutting down this tumblr n my other social media accts. to those of you who have donated and requested customs lately, i’m so sorry! if u donated a significant amt of money pls let me know and i can refund u!

if ur interested in keeping up with me, i’ll stay active over at my new tumblr @m-ary and will continue kinky fat posting, but in a non commercialized capacity"

 

On 5/18/2020 at 1:10 AM, Rj8499 said:

No one ever really lasts 🥺

 

On 5/18/2020 at 2:04 AM, bellymon said:

 

On 5/18/2020 at 2:33 AM, berserker1 said:

Cherries does.

 

On 5/18/2020 at 4:11 AM, thefeedernextdoor said:

 

In my experience the ones who really last are the ones who gain slower. As she alluded to in her tumblr post, every couple of months there's a new girl on the scene who's gaining faster, eating more, and has an aura that attracts everyone to her. Now generally, gaining weight gets harder the heavier you get, and if you come onto the scene skinny and get huge quick, a lot of people don't seem to stick around once the weight starts stalling, which is a real shame in my opinion, but that's just the market at play. I think a lot of these women feel a tremendous pressure to keep gaining at the same pace, even if things in real life get in the way.

I also think women who come onto the scene already 300+lbs and gain slowly seem to have a longer shelf life than smaller women who come on, gain 70+lbs in a matter of months and then burn out. There is another popular model on here, I wont name her, who amassed quite a following having gained a huge amount of weight in a short time period but has mentioned a decline in viewership now her weight isn't increasing at quite the same rate.

Cherries has always been a dark horse. She's slowly and consistently kept getting bigger and bigger over the years. I imagine her fans are very loyal to her.

 

On 5/18/2020 at 5:59 AM, jackal27 said:

I’m so sorry to see her go since I thought her gain so far was one of the best I’d seen, but I also agree. I suspected this much might happen. Plus I know there were some on her various network accounts that were harassing her about her weight or otherwise. It’s not easy to tolerate consistently for someone like her. I’ll miss her for sure, but I hope the best for her too.

 

On 5/18/2020 at 8:56 AM, thefeedernextdoor said:

I think she might still be gaining, just not as publicly. On her new tumblr she still posts pictures and stuff, I just don't think she'll be selling content anymore. I can imagine it gets stressful.

 

10 hours ago, pet sounds said:

She has said elsewhere in the past that she doesn't care for the commercial aspects of the scene. Mary seems to be motivated entirely by her love of the kink, which isn't a bad thing. I predict she'll still be around and gaining (perhaps at a slower pace), but not to sell content.

 

4 hours ago, John Smith said:

It's a pretty sad thing to learn.

 

[John Smith]

38 minutes ago, JesusofSuburbia said:

I take it as good news. Rather see her stick around and enjoy the fetish instead of getting fed up and despising it/the community (of course theres always secret option #3).

Admittedly, I'm surprised and a bit saddened that the fetish is so commercially competitive.

In the end, shes still the quirky, enthusiastic, gorgeous chubbychiquita. 

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Yes I'm going full SIMP mode for this girl. 

 

5 minutes ago, John Smith said:

I'm not surprized.

The Fat Fetishism/BBW porn has reportedly been for a couple of years a major cash cow, if not the largest-grossing adult entertainment fetish of the Western hemisphere for various reasons: first off because that kink is ridiculously popular amongst male porn consumers from none solely all over the U.S.A. , but as stereotypical it might sounds also from various African countries as well-- a region where public access to the Web and telecommunications has increased so well over the past fifteen years than you Americans had a president nuking Gaddafi's satellite purpoted to easethe flwo of that goldmine then attempting to slow down the launch of a Nigerian one purpoted to prevent Lybia, France, Russia and China from ever monopolizing that said market (tHaNks oBa...) .

 

Body Positivism and the increasing highlight of Plus Size supermodels on the spotlight in the 2010s and ever now alleviated the male population over the Western world from some of their former prejudices and internalized reticences toward publically appreciating women from various sizes and whether it displeases the medical dogmas or not, Lipophilia toward women has proven again than this perhaps not a so called paraphilia clutched to one minority of demented neuroatypicals, primitivism and misfits of the dating game as they wanted to portray it.

 

Furthermore, we can see that the competition game has been overwhelmed by successive waves of newbies within the likes of F****ie, FF, Curvage and even mainstream social medias (Twitter, IG) over the past three years, especially since the lockdowm has begun.

Some major heads within this generation - which includes ChubbyChiquita amongst the top heads and the likes of Goddess Shar, ChubbyCollegeGirl or MsChunky counted amongst the initiators - seems better physiologically fit than most of their predecessors to fatten up at very dramatic lenghts, yet whether they fully indulge themselves (like Chiquita did) or hold back to a moderate or lesser degree, tend to affect the timespan of their commercial survivability in this community. 

 

In shorter words, the swifter these "fasties" or "speedsters" lurch themselves into deeper levels of obesity, the sooner their business relevance and popularity might burnt out in consequence of we, Fat Admirers, holding too much reticences towars heavier BBWs and any fat woman of a weight range beyond that.

 

No wonder why a couple of the fewer expections to this rule tends to undergo a fewer shape-altering changes through cosmetic surgery and so else to keep their relevance on board. It's a postmodern gladiatoring circus play.

 

[Jorin85]

I have personally never understood the numbers game myself, when they want people to gain a certain amount in a short space of time. I can see how external pressures to satisfy customers gets in the way of purely enjoying it.

Like as soon as they reach a certain weight, some people are like ''get to 250'' now, and ''get to 300''. I can imagine that being a pressure for those who are new to gaining. I am not surprised that some of them simply stop advertising their gain for commercial reasons.

And other people unfollow if they don't upload regularly (I see alot of IG accounts that lose dozens of followers after a few days)

I think this applies to things outside of this to - with any type of content creation - people just think of doing things to get their follow/sub numbers up - and don't think in the long term. Like, with Twitch, the average new streamer has a lifespan of 6 to 8 months. They quit, not because they no longer enjoy it, but just with that constant pressure to gain follower numbers.

It's over saturated, and the legends of these various scenes are lasting longer and longer.

It is getting harder for emerging people to stick to it and last, in the face of the demand to keep their viewership up. This is not soley a problem in this community. It is a problem for anyone looking to make creative internet, video based paid content. It is really hard out there.

The worst is - some people do not even re-think it, or attempt it again from a different perspective - they feel like they cannot do it at all, ever again. it's sad.

It should be more about creating a brand, a persona. It should not be about gaining numbers from the get-go.

The internet video making industry, in any field, is a vastly over-saturated industry where people struggle to make inroads.

[thefeedernextdoor]

Interesting posts here for sure. Wouldn't mind hearing from any women who have first hand experience with this

[John Smith]

4 minutes ago, thefeedernextdoor said:

Interesting posts here for sure. Wouldn't mind hearing from any women who have first hand experience with this

Of course!!!!

 

Any model around is interested to share her personal experience?

[John Smith]

22 minutes ago, jake69 said:

I also have to imagine that the physical toll is significant too because the body has no time to adjust. If you gain 50 pounds over the course of a few months or 100 pounds in a year, there are going to be consequences you don't feel if you gain 50 or 100 pounds over 4-5 years.  

 

11 minutes ago, John Smith said:

Lack of energy and adaptability to body motion/core balance changing, lack of kinesthestic self-awareness (bumping into people and tables a lot, squeezing her way into places she still assume being large enough but for her slimmer self only) , premature ** knee issues, chafing thighs, expansive purchases in wardrobe and food catering, felt winded out easily, ecetera ecetera. 

 

The consequences of such quick transformation are implicitly as arousing as risky and bordeline socially-suicidal, let alone terrifying. 

 

[thefeedernextdoor]

Some people can watch the models content, jack off and then not have any deeper thought about the lifestyle and the toll it takes on the women. I'm not one of those people though. I've been with bigger women (by normal societal standards) but never been in a feeder/feedee relationship. I do wonder how many end up being ostracised by their friends/family as a result of their gain. I wouldn't want a feedee to have no life outside of the community, I don't think that would be mentally healthy. 

[John Smith]

4 minutes ago, thefeedernextdoor said:

Some people can watch the models content, jack off and then not have any deeper thought about the lifestyle and the toll it takes on the women. I'm not one of those people though. I've been with bigger women (by normal societal standards) but never been in a feeder/feedee relationship. I do wonder how many end up being ostracised by their friends/family as a result of their gain. I wouldn't want a feedee to have no life outside of the community, I don't think that would be mentally healthy. 

Having being myself around some women who were adhering in their own respective ways into this kink, I know as well how such hedonistic livelihood can impact their social lives as much as their psychological health-- and to a minor degree their health: not to the point of developping or waking up medical issues, but enough for some of those to have back pains or a fear to running up a flight of stairs (let alone climb them) .

 

It's a challenging experience for the body and the mind.

[thefeedernextdoor]

Just now, John Smith said:

Having being around some women who were adhering in their own respective ways into this kink, I know as well how such hedonistic livelihood can impact their social lives as much as their psychological health-- and to a minor degree their health: not to the point of developping or waking up medical issues, but enough for some of those to have back pains or a fear to running up a flight of stairs (let alone climb them) .

I wonder a lot about what's real and what's not. Obviously in fetish communities the lines between fantasy and reality are blurred, and when money is involved models will do whatever they think will sell the most (can't say I blame them) - It's a business, and I think many guys in this scene who think they have some sort of personal relationship with the models would be shocked to realise they're being duped a lot of the time, just like anyone who's trying to sell you stuff.

[John Smith]

21 minutes ago, thefeedernextdoor said:

I wonder a lot about what's real and what's not. Obviously in fetish communities the lines between fantasy and reality are blurred, and when money is involved models will do whatever they think will sell the most (can't say I blame them) - It's a business, and I think many guys in this scene who think they have some sort of personal relationship with the models would be shocked to realise they're being duped a lot of the time, just like anyone who's trying to sell you stuff.

Exactly. Most of we, guys in niche forums, aren't fully self-aware about how much this whole thing consist after all about being a business.

 

It is no wonder why so many people, especially women, keep adhering to that business, especially now: I am not dismissing the liberating, self-pleasuring nature of the erotic value as a counterculture and why does it appeal to some many of them in the society we're currently living, but money is noneheless a major enabling factor. Who wants to spend the rest ofher days thriving in semi-to-full secrecy in a niche webcommunity, porking up front to thousands if not millions of random strangers until the floor starts to creak and the furniture to moan out of agony, risking to went fully addicted to the consortum of ecstatic experiences and self-centered attention and having to perhaps becoming within a decade or even a couple of years the next BigCutieEcho or Half-Ton Killer, knowingly aware they might risking to jeopardize everything they had,alienate their loved ones away because of their devotion to that fetish and perhaps even shorten the count of their living days,if this is not partially or fully motivated by money??

Imagine being a conventionally attractive woman who struggle keeping her incomes ahead safely for x or y reasons, but realize than everything you had to do is to talk sweet to a bunch of sex addicts, incels, simps, creeps and most especially casual normies of wealth and tastes, shoving thousands of extra calories of greasy food at a regular basis and let yourself go as far as you can to earn a bigger salary than being a teacher, female hockey player, bureaucrat or even a senator?? If I was born a woman, given the kind of genes we had within my family I wouldn't hesitate an instant to do this as a side hobby if that enable me to achieve some financial and social success-- and I wouldn't mind getting casually winded up at the slightest move, being stuck in small places, being boo-ed and stigmatized by fatphobic people and risking permanent health issues if you tell me I can earn $100k or more by year just to be the object of lust and attention of half of the Western population without being a stripper or anything.

[thefeedernextdoor]

10 minutes ago, John Smith said:

can earn $100k or more by year just to be the object of lust and attention of half of the Western population without being a stripper or anything.

Do many models really earn that much though?

[John Smith]

29 minutes ago, thefeedernextdoor said:

Do many models really earn that much though?

Only the smartest or cunniest ones:  a couple of those who does not abide by the unspoken conventions and ever ever constantly seesaw between the mainstream and the underground while being more-or-less frequently booked mainstream models, a fewer obvious self-sufficient gold diggers (ahem, KingStep--...) , those who are genetically-gifted enough to develop for example a massive belly free of any roll nor stretch mark that perks forward without any slightest cue of a hang (no joke) or having a naturally-thin yet classically attractive face even at a massive weight (pre-triplechin era Beccabae) , Caucasian models with either Lipoedema or obesity-induced Steatopygia (many examples) , A Chinese SSBBW "influencer" recently banned from Instagram and one entrepreneur... 

[Luna Hellborn CLIPS]

Yeah, I feel the pressure..
I slowed down my video production on this site because I felt unsuitable.
Recently I ended up in hospital because my blood pressure was reaching the stars and the first thing the medical team told me was "you have to lose weight". I am short in stature and gain weight almost exclusively on the abdominal area and this exposes me to an increased cardiac risk.
Funny how the first thing I thought of was "they're gonna hate me now"..

I get so many messages asking me "how much more fat are you going to gain?" and I feel uncomfortable, because I'm choosing between my health and my supposed popularity..

I really don't know..

[John Smith]

5 hours ago, Luna Hellborn said:

Yeah, I feel the pressure..
I slowed down my video production on this site because I felt unsuitable.
Recently I ended up in hospital because my blood pressure was reaching the stars and the first thing the medical team told me was "you have to lose weight". I am short in stature and gain weight almost exclusively on the abdominal area and this exposes me to an increased cardiac risk.
Funny how the first thing I thought of was "they're gonna hate me now"..

I get so many messages asking me "how much more fat are you going to gain?" and I feel uncomfortable, because I'm choosing between my health and my supposed popularity..

I really don't know..

It's absolutely fine to make prevail your health issue above all, whatever what other people may think about it. 

I'm so sorry to hear about your difficult journey through this competition and about how it affected you, medically speaking.

[extra_m13]

i think on this topic transparency will also help the overall participant. for the really big models or the ones that have been around long enough. to share how do they feel, what makes them gain weight and the reasons for retiring or going full on losing weight. but , without editing, without lying. without saying oh i love gaining and then getting surgery, or at least coming fully out and saying all that goes with being that heavy which is unknown to most of us. that will probably demistify the fantasy and will give a clearer view to the ones that go that away as to what they can expect. as i said in a very similar post, i prefer a happy 100kg wife than a depressed 250kg that smiles for the camera

[Pancakes]

On 5/19/2020 at 10:53 AM, Jorin85 said:

I have personally never understood the numbers game myself, when they want people to gain a certain amount in a short space of time. I can see how external pressures to satisfy customers gets in the way of purely enjoying it..

It's interesting you bring this up, because some people LOVE the numbers, and some people don't seem to give af. I find myself somewhere in-between, but definitely follow weights.

I honestly wonder if those goes back to a time where feedee content was really hard to find. There weren't that many posters, people definitely didn't post every day, and a lot of us relied on "wg stories" often as a substitute. Most of the authors hardly had the language to adequately describe gaining weight without putting it in numbers.

But ALSO, we have a weight-obsesses society, and for many women the number on the scale was THE indicator of whether or not they were fat. Think about all those People magazines on the grocery store shelf that said "X gained 60LBS" "Y WEIGHS WHAT NOW?!" I think given all that cultural emphasis on the numbers, it's a natural extension for many FAs to focus on the numbers as the physical manifestation of a woman's fatness.

[Jorin85]

@Pancakes yes "wg stories" takes me back to the old Dimensions magazine website. There was a huge scene on there.

[PreyToGod]

The harsh reality is that most don’t have genuine respect for models as human beings, they’re just fetish objects to be enjoyed for their own sexual pleasure.

This community likes to parade itself as being supportive and body positive, but I’ve seen several times where a model plateaus with her weight, or god forbid decides to lose some weight for valid reasons, and people turn on them (If not publicly then through their messsges) 

Thats not body positivity thats called having a fat fetish. and it’s not any more noble than mainstream society and it’s obsession with thin or muscular women. 
 

Don’t get me started on the immobility brigade...to me that would be like having a cannibal fetish or something...you’re not a bad person for having it but you would just have to force yourself to never act on it. Even if someone claims they want to gain endlessly supporting that is like abetting a slow suicide. And if someone truly does want to gain endlessly they need psychiatric intervention as far as I am concerned. 
 

This is also highlighted in the comments of “encouragement” where many people implore models to gain serious weight before they have any idea what their goals are, or how enthusiastic they even are about gaining weight ( some are just experimenting with gaining a few pounds ) ... because they just don’t care. They just want to get off. And unfortunately it seems like some People actually derive sick satisfaction from imagining the toll it would take on the models lives, particularly for those who’ve gained a significant amount of weight. 
 

Yes some models like to be teased and like to fantasise about being huge and find those sort of comments sexy but so many just ignore this and treat them all the same way I.e get as fat as possible as fast as possible by eating as much as possible.
 

I know this post isn’t positive in nature, but hey neither is so much of the community.

This community is a mishmash or different fetishes, and the very nature of it makes it a perfect storm for all sorts of ethical dilemmas and Manipulation and hypocrisy and bullshit. 

If I could ask one thing from everybody here it’s to please fucking remember that you are dealing with real human beings on the other side of your screen. Models don’t need to present a thesis about why they’re not choosing to do what you want them to do. Even if you’re just here to jack off, think about the consequences of what you say and do 

Respect to everyone who already does that.