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(There was a thread about this on the pre-crash Curvage, IIRC.)

If it becomes an addiction. That may take some years to develop.

-If you don't think you are, try not fapping for two weeks. If you manage that on the first try, you're probably not.

Among other things. Like hypofrontality, which is basically about being less able to control your behavior than you'd like. 

Below are vids which explain the mechanism of getting addicted ..

Erectile Dysfunction and Porn: Part 2

Your Brain On Porn: Porn Addiction (Part 3)

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Also, as sex advice columnist Dan Savage always suggests, vary your masturbation routine. Left hand/right hand, hard grip/loose grip, plenty of lube/very little. Helps you not get too used to one thing, which sex invariably won't be.

also switching up what kind of porn you're looking at, sometimes not looking at porn, etc can help as well. dan savage is awesome! (when it comes to sex advice... other things, not so much.)

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also switching up what kind of porn you're looking at, sometimes not looking at porn, etc can help as well. dan savage is awesome! (when it comes to sex advice... other things, not so much.)

Are you referring to his record about body negativity towards fat people/fat shaming? I haven't been a regular enough reader to catch much of that... is it bad?

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Are you referring to his record about body negativity towards fat people/fat shaming? I haven't been a regular enough reader to catch much of that... is it bad?

yep. he has a very hardline opinion that fat = unhealthy and losing weight is the best way to improve a fat person's life. i have noticed in his more recent podcasts he's had less negative things to say, which is nice, but he definitely could use some improvement. he's also iffy on trans issues, asexuality, and polyamory. i still love listening to his podcasts, though!

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Also, as sex advice columnist Dan Savage always suggests, vary your masturbation routine. Left hand/right hand, hard grip/loose grip, plenty of lube/very little.

Heh.

That's like saying that a  diabetic needs to eat donuts with alternate hands. Aside from that, I varied it enough, grip strength and all that.

Aside that, I'm likely addicted to porn, especially the written kind. It took ages to sink in, that realization.

With hindsight, I should've twigged to it years ago.

The only workable course of action, to me, seems to be quitting- and from what I've read.. quitting forever.

Like with booze, falling off the wagon is very easy.

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Heh.

That's like saying that a  diabetic needs to eat donuts with alternate hands. Aside from that, I varied it enough, grip strength and all that.

Aside that, I'm likely addicted to porn, especially the written kind. It took ages to sink in, that realization.

With hindsight, I should've twigged to it years ago.

The only workable course of action, to me, seems to be quitting- and from what I've read.. quitting forever.

Like with booze, falling off the wagon is very easy.

Why quit forever? Nonsense. Just reduce it to a manageable amount.

Or, you know, get a girlfriend :D

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Why quit forever? Nonsense. Just reduce it to a manageable amount.

Or, you know, get a girlfriend :D

My boyfriend and I have been together for 3 years now and As far as I know, he still masturbates quite a lot. It's not so bad since we don't live together and since our work schedules don't make it accessible for us to have sex with each other all the time. But when we do have sex, It's very very hard for him most times to keep a hard on. I could just flat out tell him not to masturbate to porn till he sees me on the weekend, but that wouldn't be fair because I masturbate too. Ultimately he knows that once we move in together that there will be more sex because I'm there and it'll be convenient when the urge arises.  But trust me, just cause you have a girlfriend doesn't mean that the masturbation to porn or masturbation in general will cut down. That was something that was a real big issue when our relationship started out cause I'd come over at least 4-5 days out of the week, and even then we only had sex once a week. Even on the nights that I'd spend over, whenever he "thought I was asleep" he'd start wanking away till I called him out on it and got pretty upset that instead of turning around to where his bed was and having sex with me, he'd just rather masturbate. Totally made me feel like shit and like I couldn't fulfill his needs. I'm not against porn, but in cases where it interferes with your sex life and your partner totally wants sex as much as you're masturbating.... that's where I draw the line.
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As per my response in the earlier thread, I couldn't give a fuck.

I've been a bit limp as a result of stress, too much caffeine, too much or little alcohol... basically everything except porn. Well, obviously if I jerk off like 5 times in a day I'm probably going to be a bit unenthusiastic that night, but give it a day or so and I'll be back to normal levels.

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I wouldn't be surprised if there were people who are unaffected. I know some  people who smoke, but are not addicted.

Erectile dysfunction is supposed to be rare before middle age.

I  know several guys who have similar problems, I haven't had morning wood in years, which is only supposed to happen to people who can't get it up at all. Abstaining for a week didn't help either.

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Really? I'm over 50 and I still get morning wood occasionally.

That's because of your involvement with a secret government experiment where they implanted a chip in your body which releases small doses of Viagra into your blood stream on random mornings ;)

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I haven't had morning wood in years, which is only supposed to happen to people who can't get it up at all. Abstaining for a week didn't help either.

Brother, as surely as the sun shines I still get my morning wood. Maybe you wank wrong - you're not using any kitchen utensils or things with warning labels on them, are you?

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lots of wanna-be medical doctors in this thread  :P

-> if you have erectile dysfunction : go see an Urologist

it's always a good idea to

eat healthy, be physically active as well as managing stress

i would be suspicious about Porn & negative consequences

Behind allot of those claims are religious people who want

to force their world-view upon others.

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lots of wanna-be medical doctors in this thread  :P

-> if you have erectile dysfunction : go see an Urologist

it's always a good idea to

eat healthy, be physically active as well as managing stress

i would be suspicious about Porn & negative consequences

Behind allot of those claims are religious people who want

to force their world-view upon others.

However too, there's a lot of scientific claim behind this too man. Seriously there's a lot of evidence to support, (and not support) the fact that more teens viewing porn at such a young age can damage their sex lives later on in terms of having skewed views on how sex should be.

Also, My boyfriend has seen a health professional in regards to him having a hard time staying hard and all tests came back fine. He had tests done twice in a 3 month time frame by two different doctors just to be sure.

Religion or not, there's truth there. Much like the saying goes "There's truth in jest." Perhaps this is scientific evidence that was brought around that religious groups happened to adopt to make it fit their purpose. I mean just cause it's saying no to masturbation, doesn't mean that it's gotta automatically be religious. I'm not religious but I came across psychology studies as seen in articles by Psychology Today

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201107/porn-induced-sexual-dysfunction-growing-problem

When my boyfriend and I went to Japan for 2 weeks and he wasn't able to masturbate or get off until we had sex in a love hotel half way through our trip, he stayed hard the whole time. Recently he's been cutting back due to not having as much free time, not only to masturbate, but also watch porn, thus having more stimulus for his viewing pleasure. When we got back, he had only masturbated once during the week till I saw him and once again he stayed hard during the whole time. In the past, it used to be that maybe 1 time out of every 2 dozen he could stay hard during the whole duration, and usually during that time before our sexual encounter he was busy with other things like school to where he wasn't able to masturbate. So then how would a healthy mid 20 year old man be so healthy to where he was sexually impotent during sex, but when cutting down on the amount of porn viewed and the amount he mastubated, he was perfectly hard the whole time? Seems like a striking picture there.

Sorry, there is evidence to support sexual addiction, and in today's society it's easily understandable how a perfectly healthy person can become more attracted to visual cues on a screen than a naked, physical body right in front of them, and how over time, more and more of an impulse is required. More times than not by seeking out more intense visual stimuli. As mentioned though, that's not to say that health doesn't factor into the equation at all, but the fact that there are younger, more fit males in their teens and 20's experiencing this issue at a growing rate is a bit of an alarm that should sound and say, "It's good in moderation. Once you start having sexual issues or let it consume your free time and reduce your ability to focus on other things and affect performance in other parts of your life, that's when it's a bigger issue." [Wow, sorry for that run on sentence...]

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I'd imagine, like any stimulus, you can over-expose yourself to experience diminishing returns.  At the same time, masturbation is natural, promotes fertility, and encourages the release of endorphins.  Its also a good way to "know thyself" sexually, to see what works for you, to gauge what triggers orgasms, etc.  So common sense tells me, moderation is the key.  If you masturbate 8 times a day, you probably need a hobby.  But quitting forever is a bad idea.  And if you have ED, like someone said, seek the help of a medical professional. 

None the less, its an interesting topic.  For fetish communities like this one,  the stimuli we seek might never be encountered in real life -  for example, someone who fantasizes about a girl gaining until she's the size of a house... they might find "porn" (most likely some kind of fetish artwork) that gets them off, but no real-life partner is going to do that for them. 

For me, I'm pretty exclusively turned on by girl's stuffing... that is, normal sex is a peripheral interest at best.  So I occasional find myself losing erections due to lack of motivation if a stuffing-related stimuli isn't present.  On top of that [TMI warning], I have a pretty severe and untreated case of phimosis (in short, non-retractability of the foreskin), which makes normal intercourse extremely painful.  I could treat it by getting a circumcision, but I'm not too keen on that idea, so I'm holding out for a more expensive preputioplasty procedure.

Anyway, during sexual encounters, basic human pain-aversion kicks in and I occasionally run into problems maintaining an erection there as well.  I've only had one or two orgasms as a result of conventional sex in my entire life, and even then, the girl was telling me how much she pigs out on Thanksgiving while I was fucking her  :)

All that said, I masturbate reasonably often.  If I skip a day, I always have morning wood the next day.  And I get erections as often, and as easily, as I believe I should.  So while there are physiological conditions like ED, and behavioral issues like general over-exposure to sexual stimuli, there can be other factors at play.  Of course, my case is somewhat unusual, and exacerbated by a pre-existing medial condition.  But any fetish, particularly if it is the exclusive source of one's arousal, could cause problems for anyone trying to engage in "normal" sexual activities -- regardless of how often they masturbate. 

The question I'm left with is... does masturbating to porn which satisfies an exclusive paraphila/fetish have the potential make the fetish "stronger" or more deeply rooted.  In other words, do we condition ourselves to require [or prefer to an increasingly greater degree] the specific stimuli provided by fetish porn?  Or is the fetish just part of who we are?

I ask, because I've based my sexual identity around my stuffing fetish since I was 11 years old (I'm 26 now).  But such a fetish has almost always been relegated to fantasy, because I've never met a girl who was into it.  And now that I'm older, and more sexually active, I'm finding that "normal" sex doesn't interest me much at all.  Is this just how I am, or did I spend 15 years of my life conditioning a quirky preference into a fetish which now dominates my entire sexual identity? 

Could I un-condition it?  The very notion reeks of "aversion therapy" to me, which I find absurd.  If I could, would I even want to?  It seems like my fetish is a part of me, even if it is constantly de-railing my sex life. And even if I did manage to overcome my fetish, I doubt I'd find myself magically more interested in conventional sex. 

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In other words, do we condition ourselves to require [or prefer to an increasingly greater degree] the specific stimuli provided by fetish porn?  Or is the fetish just part of who we are?

I think reinforcement is an essential  part of sexual tastes. This here article goes into some detail and cites it's sources...

http://yourbrainonporn.com/are-sexual-tastes-immutable

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I think reinforcement is an essential  part of sexual tastes. This here article goes into some detail and cites it's sources...

http://yourbrainonporn.com/are-sexual-tastes-immutable

I don't think it's bad at all to look at fetish porn every now and again, but I think over viewing can lead to desensitization which leads to needing more stimulation. It does make sense if you think about it how when you have enough if something that makes you feel good that eventually over time, that sensation can fade thus requiring more of it.

I think communities like these geared towards specific fetishes are fine, however moderation should be exercised mainly because I think they do perpetuate the fetish to where it is harder to differentiate the reality of this kind of a community from the reality of everything. And I believe that can be said for all different types of fetish communities as well.

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I think reinforcement is an essential  part of sexual tastes. This here article goes into some detail and cites it's sources...

http://yourbrainonporn.com/are-sexual-tastes-immutable

From personal anecdotal experience and the general view of the medical world, I'm inclined to think sexual preference is very much innate - the only thing that cultural exposure does to these preferences is lift the veil on them. I can remember having a strange attraction to virtually everything I like now as a child, in a peculiar pre-sexual way. That is to say, I knew I liked it, but I didn't know what it was or why I liked it.

People like the author of that article just put the cart before the horse, I think. It often takes an experience before you work out that you like something, but it doesn't mean the experience actually creates the liking so much as just reveals it. One of the reasons I suspect this is the case is that for every one person who 'finds out' they're into kinky shit later in life, there's probably about 20 other people who knew what they liked at such a young age that they couldn't even put a name to what it was.

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"From personal anecdotal experience and the general view of the medical world, I'm inclined to think sexual preference is very much innate"... "It often takes an experience before you work out that you like something, but it doesn't mean the experience actually creates the liking so much as just reveals it."

That being said, each fetish has it's roots planted deep within our subconscious, and is due, more often than not, to reasons well out of our control. Personally, I think that the commonly held belief that Fat Admiration derives from stress is utter rubbish and is a theory devised by those who do not understand the fetish itself. This sort of thing is not something easily parted with or gained and is thus very much an inseparable part of our inner nature.

Just so we don't find a future post in this thread saying something along the lines of "and to those who like to put on the veil on anonymity and pretend their doctors/psychologists, blah blah blah", some friends and I had a rather lengthy discussion about this after a lecture on the subject my college lit. class. I was relatively uncomfortable with it as I am a very withdrawn person and, being an FA, I naturally feel backed into a corner when talking about such things.

In short, no there is no way to get rid of it, and, frankly, why would you really want to?

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